Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think there will be a couple of teams that will show interest in him.

Who?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Who?

Teams with shaky QB situations:

Raiders
Bills
Browns
Panthers
Bucs
Seahawks
Rams

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Teams with shaky QB situations:

Raiders
Bills
Browns
Panthers
Bucs
Seahawks
Rams

Campbell would be a #2 or a #3 on all of those teams, except maybe the Raiders. Campbell could definitely find work of some kind in the NFL, but the skins are the most attractive option to him. Zorn may end up win Cleaveland, but there's no way in hell he'll want anything to do with Campbell there.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Campbell would be a #2 or a #3 on all of those teams, except maybe the Raiders. Campbell could definitely find work of some kind in the NFL, but the skins are the most attractive option to him. Zorn may end up win Cleaveland, but there's no way in hell he'll want anything to do with Campbell there.

I honestly don't see a team there where he wouldn't be the starter. Can you honestly say any of those teams are in better shape right now with their current options?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I honestly don't see a team there where he wouldn't be the starter. Can you honestly say any of those teams are in better shape right now with their current options?

I cant imagine that any of those teams would want to swap their shakey QB for a shakey JC. Sure he might start for those teams but he wont bring any improvement or upgrade to the QB position on those teams.

[FRPLG]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Campbell would be a #2 or a #3 on all of those teams, except maybe the Raiders. Campbell could definitely find work of some kind in the NFL, but the skins are the most attractive option to him. Zorn may end up win Cleaveland, but there's no way in hell he'll want anything to do with Campbell there.

He starts for every single one of them except maybe Seattle if Hasslebeck is healthy. Not a single doubt.

It seems to me that the JC argument breaks down into 2 camps mostly.

1) Thinks he could be a good QB given the right line and tools around him. This group sorta sub-divides into the "That's not good enough versus That is perfectly fine" sub-argument.

2) Thinks he is the worst QB ever. Has never shown anything to make us think he could be an adequate NFL QB. Thinks he's a backup on teams that currently have zilch at QB.

Obviously I'm in the first group and lean to the "perfectly fine" side.

The second group...I don't know what Redskins games you've been watching. I'm not even sure you all have a great grasp of what it takes to win in the NFL. Or maybe I am crazy.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

He starts for every single one of them except maybe Seattle if Hasslebeck is healthy. Not a single doubt.

It seems to me that the JC argument breaks down into 2 camps mostly.

1) Thinks he could be a good QB given the right line and tools around him. This group sorta sub-divides into the "That's not good enough versus That is perfectly fine" sub-argument.

2) Thinks he is the worst QB ever. Has never shown anything to make us think he could be an adequate NFL QB. Thinks he's a backup on teams that currently have zilch at QB.

Obviously I'm in the first group and lean to the "perfectly fine" side.

The second group...I don't know what Redskins games you've been watching. I'm not even sure you all have a great grasp of what it takes to win in the NFL. Or maybe I am crazy.

Well one of the second group member said earlier in the thread that with other QB's that are having similar years to JC that we'd be a 8-9 win team right now so what does that tell you?

[MTK]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

He starts for every single one of them except maybe Seattle if Hasslebeck is healthy. Not a single doubt.

It seems to me that the JC argument breaks down into 2 camps mostly.

1) Thinks he could be a good QB given the right line and tools around him. This group sorta sub-divides into the "That's not good enough versus That is perfectly fine" sub-argument.

2) Thinks he is the worst QB ever. Has never shown anything to make us think he could be an adequate NFL QB. Thinks he's a backup on teams that currently have zilch at QB.

Obviously I'm in the first group and lean to the "perfectly fine" side.

The second group...I don't know what Redskins games you've been watching. I'm not even sure you all have a great grasp of what it takes to win in the NFL. Or maybe I am crazy.

Yeah I don't quite understand it either. He's a middle of the pack QB on a flat out bad team. It's not too hard to imagine with a better cast around him, he could be much better.

[rbanerjee23]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Campbell would be a #2 or a #3 on all of those teams, except maybe the Raiders. Campbell could definitely find work of some kind in the NFL, but the skins are the most attractive option to him. Zorn may end up win Cleaveland, but there's no way in hell he'll want anything to do with Campbell there.

What are you talking about, he would without a doubt start in Cleveland, Oakland, Carolina, Tampa, and St. Louis.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What are you talking about, he would without a doubt start in Cleveland, Oakland, Carolina, Tampa, and St. Louis.

Moore is the guy in Carolina and Tampa has Freeman.. Oakland just becuz they are horrible lol..

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What are you talking about, he would without a doubt start in Cleveland, Oakland, Carolina, Tampa, and St. Louis.

Cleaveland - Campbell is not better than Brady Quinn and its a toss up with Derek Anderson. Cleaveland's offensive line is worse than ours, if you handn't noticed.

Oakland - if you paid attention, I said he would possibly start there.

Carolina - Do you watch football other than the redskins? Matt Moore's been playing extremely well in Carolina and has the support of his team. Unless there's a coaching change, Moore will be the starter in 2010.

Tampa Bay - The just team spent a 1st round pick on Freeman. He'll be their starter in 2010.

St Louis - St. Louis is unquestionably drafting a QB with their 1st round pick. Its possible they could bring Campbell in and start him the first few weeks, but the pressure would be to high to start whomever they draft by the end of the season.

In general, some of you give Campbell way too much credit. On a GOOD DAY, he's a mediocre QB. On most days, he's below mediocre. Give me a list of current starting QBs in the league who have started atleast the number of games Campbell has and i garauntee you Campbell will be one of the worst, if not the worst, in the group.

He's been inconsistent his entire career - even when he's had a good line in front of him. Yes, he's thrown for over 3,000 yards this year, but almost none of his passes go for more than 5 yards... I'd say atleast 80% of the yards padding his stats are YAC. He holds on to the ball way too long, makes boneheaded plays with regularity, and is just not a good - or even average- QB for someone with his level of NFL experience.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Cleaveland - Campbell is not better than Brady Quinn and its a toss up with Derek Anderson. Cleaveland's offensive line is worse than ours, if you handn't noticed.

Oakland - if you paid attention, I said he would possibly start there.

Carolina - Do you watch football other than the redskins? Matt Moore's been playing extremely well in Carolina and has the support of his team. Unless there's a coaching change, Moore will be the starter in 2010.

Tampa Bay - The just team spent a 1st round pick on Freeman. He'll be their starter in 2010.

St Louis - St. Louis is unquestionably drafting a QB with their 1st round pick. Its possible they could bring Campbell in and start him the first few weeks, but the pressure would be to high to start whomever they draft by the end of the season.

In general, some of you give Campbell way too much credit. On a GOOD DAY, he's a mediocre QB. On most days, he's below mediocre. Give me a list of current starting QBs in the league who have started atleast the number of games Campbell has and i garauntee you Campbell will be one of the worst, if not the worst, in the group.

He's been inconsistent his entire career - even when he's had a good line in front of him. Yes, he's thrown for over 3,000 yards this year, but almost none of his passes go for more than 5 yards... I'd say atleast 80% of the yards padding his stats are YAC. He holds on to the ball way too long, makes boneheaded plays with regularity, and is just not a good - or even average- QB for someone with his level of NFL experience.

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Quinn is awful at this point.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Quinn is awful at this point.

To use excuses we have heard for another QB who shall remain nameless, its hard to tell how good he is or how good he can be because he's stuck on a terrible team. If he had better blocking and more weapons it could be better determined if he can be successful.

I'm also not sure JC could start on Oak as Gradkowski looks decent at times (kind of like JC). Had he not been injured in the game vs the Skins I think Oak might have won.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Quinn is awful at this point.

Cleavlelands O-line is awful... worse than ours even. The same excuses people want to make for Campbell after 5 years and 50+ starts could apply to Quinn at 3 years and about a dozen starts. Campbell wasn't much better than Quinn at the same point in his career and Campbell was benefitting from a much more talented coaching staff and surrounding cast of players at the time. Campbell's exhausted all his excuses. Quinn still has plenty of them. I don't think that Quinn is ever going to be a great QB, but he's got more of a chance to be a good one than Campbell does.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Cleaveland - Campbell is not better than Brady Quinn and its a toss up with Derek Anderson. Cleaveland's offensive line is worse than ours, if you handn't noticed.

Oakland - if you paid attention, I said he would possibly start there.

Carolina - Do you watch football other than the redskins? Matt Moore's been playing extremely well in Carolina and has the support of his team. Unless there's a coaching change, Moore will be the starter in 2010.

Tampa Bay - The just team spent a 1st round pick on Freeman. He'll be their starter in 2010.

St Louis - St. Louis is unquestionably drafting a QB with their 1st round pick. Its possible they could bring Campbell in and start him the first few weeks, but the pressure would be to high to start whomever they draft by the end of the season.

In general, some of you give Campbell way too much credit. On a GOOD DAY, he's a mediocre QB. On most days, he's below mediocre. Give me a list of current starting QBs in the league who have started atleast the number of games Campbell has and i garauntee you Campbell will be one of the worst, if not the worst, in the group.

He's been inconsistent his entire career - even when he's had a good line in front of him. Yes, he's thrown for over 3,000 yards this year, but almost none of his passes go for more than 5 yards... I'd say atleast 80% of the yards padding his stats are YAC. He holds on to the ball way too long, makes boneheaded plays with regularity, and is just not a good - or even average- QB for someone with his level of NFL experience.

Cleveland-Worse than ours? Interesting since it features two first round picks in Thomas and Mack, and a free-agent they spent a lot of money on in Steinbach

Oakland-If he can't beat out Russell in a fair competition, he should just retire

Carolina-Moore is playing well, but that's not to say Campbell couldn't pretty easily start over him

Tampa Bay-Agreed. But...if they make a coaching change all bets are off

St. Louis-No guarantee they'll take a QB in the first round

Campbell isn't a bad quarterback. I'm one of those who wants us to move forward without him, but I'm not going to make the guy worse than he is just to feel better about my opinion.