Sam Bradford remains projected pick to Redskins

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

two things we absolutely should not do with our first round pick are:

1) Draft a defensive player, especially a safety. The move would not fill one of our top 10 team needs and i highly doubt a safety would even be close to being the BPA on the board at 5/6 or wherever we'll be picking.

2) Draft a running back before our offensive line is fixed. Its going to take 2-3 years to really fix our line. Running backs generally are only productive for 5-6 years. so if we draft a running back that high, we're essentially wasting half of his productive career behind a dismal offensive line.

We'd be far better suited to trade UP to get Bradford, Suh, or Okung than we would be to make either of those moves at 5. I even have reservations about drafting a QB at 5. Any player drafted that high should be a day 1 starter and all of the QBs in this years draft are "projects." Not a one of them is NFL ready. If Shanahan is our coach, we'd be FAR better off trading our #2 for Leinhart than using our #1 on Clausen, McCoy or Bradford.

Ideally, i'd love to see us trade Campbell, our #2 (probably around 37 overall), and a conditional 2010 pick to Arizona for Leinhart and Arizona's #2 (probably around 52 overall). Then, try like hell to trade down in the 1st and pick up a 2nd round pick.

We'd have Leinhart and with our first three picks, we'd draft 2 OL and a RB.

so we shouldn't draft a defensive player....but we should trade up for suh???

it is likely that we will have the 5th pick and to say eric berry wouldn't be the bpa for the number five pick is a little bit ruh-tard

i do agree with you on not drafting a running back that early before the line is fixed because their careers are alot shorter these days, but why would you want a qb behind a shitty line especially one like bradford with an injury history

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

so we shouldn't draft a defensive player....but we should trade up for suh???

That was in reference to drafting Berry. Suh is the best player in the draft period. He'll be better than Haynesworth.

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

it is likely that we will have the 5th pick and to say eric berry wouldn't be the bpa for the number five pick is a little bit ruh-tard

No its not. Read my other post. a college DB may appear to be a really good NFL talent, but we havent had very good luck drafting DBs that high and them playing at an NFL-level right away. Anyone we draft at 5 should not only be a starter right away, but they should also be in pro-bowl consideration their rookie year. They need to make an immediate impact.

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

i do agree with you on not drafting a running back that early before the line is fixed because their careers are alot shorter these days, but why would you want a qb behind a shitty line especially one like bradford with an injury history

I don't. I want Leinhart behind an upgraded offensive line with a 2nd round running back. However, Drafting a QB when you have a bad OL is 1000 times smarter than drafting a RB when you have a bad line:

running backs careers are short. As I stated, we'd be wasting half the RBs career behind a bad line. By contrast, QBs can easily play for 15 years. They also generally take 2-3 years to develop. It actually makes alot of sense to draft a QB before you fix your line and then let him sit on the bench for 2-3 years so that by the time your line is fixed, the QB ready to play. It just doesnt make much sense to draft a QB in the first round when you dont have a good line AND he's not NFL ready. If you're going to select a project QB, it might as well be a later round one. Unless you really think a QB is the next peyton manning, there's not much differnece between a 1st round QB and one taken in the later rounds if theyve both spent 2-3 years on the bench. It really becomes a matter of picking a QB that has the skill set to fit the team's offensive system.

[mlmdub130]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

That was in reference to drafting Berry. Suh is the best player in the draft period. He'll be better than Haynesworth.


No its not. Read my other post. a college DB may appear to be a really good NFL talent, but we havent had very good luck drafting DBs that high and them playing at an NFL-level right away. Anyone we draft at 5 should not only be a starter right away, but they should also be in pro-bowl consideration their rookie year. They need to make an immediate impact.


I don't. I want Leinhart behind an upgraded offensive line with a 2nd round running back. However, Drafting a QB when you have a bad OL is 1000 times smarter than drafting a RB when you have a bad line

running backs careers are short. As I stated, we'd be wasting half the RBs career behind a bad line. By contrast, QBs can easily play for 15 years. They also generally take 2-3 years to develop. It actually makes alot of sense to draft a QB before you fix your line and then let him sit on the bench for 2-3 years so that by the time your line is fixed, the QB ready to play. It just doesnt make much sense to draft a QB in the first round when you dont have a good line AND he's not NFL ready. If you're going to select a project QB, it might as well be a later round one. Unless you really think a QB is the next peyton manning, there's not much differnece between a 1st round QB and one taken in the later rounds if theyve both spent 2-3 years on the bench. It really becomes a matter of picking a QB that has the skill set to fit the team's offensive system.

you can never say that you never truely know 100% that any one player will amount to anything in the nfl

we haven't had much luck doesn't mean much if we is gone and there is a new gm in place. and there are db's that make very smooth transitions to the nfl look at byrd this year and talib last year. in an ideal world it would be grat for all top ten picks to be pro bowlers right away but in the real world we know that is not possible

i agree 100%

again i agree, and imo i don't think any of the qb's coming out will be great starters in the nfl from jump street, there are alot of really good prospects but i wouldn't want any of them jumping behind center on this team next year

doesn't matter what postion it is they need to match our team which is somthing some one didn't used to give a f about, thankfully he is gone