Do You Want Jason Campbell Back in 2010?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by rbanerjee23

What are you talking about, he would without a doubt start in Cleveland, Oakland, Carolina, Tampa, and St. Louis.

Cleaveland - Campbell is not better than Brady Quinn and its a toss up with Derek Anderson. Cleaveland's offensive line is worse than ours, if you handn't noticed.

Oakland - if you paid attention, I said he would possibly start there.

Carolina - Do you watch football other than the redskins? Matt Moore's been playing extremely well in Carolina and has the support of his team. Unless there's a coaching change, Moore will be the starter in 2010.

Tampa Bay - The just team spent a 1st round pick on Freeman. He'll be their starter in 2010.

St Louis - St. Louis is unquestionably drafting a QB with their 1st round pick. Its possible they could bring Campbell in and start him the first few weeks, but the pressure would be to high to start whomever they draft by the end of the season.

In general, some of you give Campbell way too much credit. On a GOOD DAY, he's a mediocre QB. On most days, he's below mediocre. Give me a list of current starting QBs in the league who have started atleast the number of games Campbell has and i garauntee you Campbell will be one of the worst, if not the worst, in the group.

He's been inconsistent his entire career - even when he's had a good line in front of him. Yes, he's thrown for over 3,000 yards this year, but almost none of his passes go for more than 5 yards... I'd say atleast 80% of the yards padding his stats are YAC. He holds on to the ball way too long, makes boneheaded plays with regularity, and is just not a good - or even average- QB for someone with his level of NFL experience.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Cleaveland - Campbell is not better than Brady Quinn and its a toss up with Derek Anderson. Cleaveland's offensive line is worse than ours, if you handn't noticed.

Oakland - if you paid attention, I said he would possibly start there.

Carolina - Do you watch football other than the redskins? Matt Moore's been playing extremely well in Carolina and has the support of his team. Unless there's a coaching change, Moore will be the starter in 2010.

Tampa Bay - The just team spent a 1st round pick on Freeman. He'll be their starter in 2010.

St Louis - St. Louis is unquestionably drafting a QB with their 1st round pick. Its possible they could bring Campbell in and start him the first few weeks, but the pressure would be to high to start whomever they draft by the end of the season.

In general, some of you give Campbell way too much credit. On a GOOD DAY, he's a mediocre QB. On most days, he's below mediocre. Give me a list of current starting QBs in the league who have started atleast the number of games Campbell has and i garauntee you Campbell will be one of the worst, if not the worst, in the group.

He's been inconsistent his entire career - even when he's had a good line in front of him. Yes, he's thrown for over 3,000 yards this year, but almost none of his passes go for more than 5 yards... I'd say atleast 80% of the yards padding his stats are YAC. He holds on to the ball way too long, makes boneheaded plays with regularity, and is just not a good - or even average- QB for someone with his level of NFL experience.

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Quinn is awful at this point.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Quinn is awful at this point.

To use excuses we have heard for another QB who shall remain nameless, its hard to tell how good he is or how good he can be because he's stuck on a terrible team. If he had better blocking and more weapons it could be better determined if he can be successful.

I'm also not sure JC could start on Oak as Gradkowski looks decent at times (kind of like JC). Had he not been injured in the game vs the Skins I think Oak might have won.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I pretty much stopped reading right there. Quinn is awful at this point.

Cleavlelands O-line is awful... worse than ours even. The same excuses people want to make for Campbell after 5 years and 50+ starts could apply to Quinn at 3 years and about a dozen starts. Campbell wasn't much better than Quinn at the same point in his career and Campbell was benefitting from a much more talented coaching staff and surrounding cast of players at the time. Campbell's exhausted all his excuses. Quinn still has plenty of them. I don't think that Quinn is ever going to be a great QB, but he's got more of a chance to be a good one than Campbell does.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Cleavlelands O-line is awful... worse than ours even. The same excuses people want to make for Campbell after 5 years and 50+ starts could apply to Quinn at 3 years and about a dozen starts. Campbell wasn't much better than Quinn at the same point in his career and Campbell was benefitting from a much more talented coaching staff and surrounding cast of players at the time. Campbell's exhausted all his excuses. Quinn still has plenty of them. I don't think that Quinn is ever going to be a great QB, but he's got more of a chance to be a good one than Campbell does.

Huh?

They have a Pro Bowler at left tackle with Joe Thomas. They have one of the most promising young centers in the league, Alex Mack. Steinbach makes a very capable guard. The right side of their line could be upgraded, that is true, but there is no way that Cleveland's OL is worse than ours. OL, in fact, is one of Cleveland's strengths. Their offensive problems derive much more from their skill positions, not from the OL.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Cleaveland - Campbell is not better than Brady Quinn and its a toss up with Derek Anderson. Cleaveland's offensive line is worse than ours, if you handn't noticed.

Oakland - if you paid attention, I said he would possibly start there.

Carolina - Do you watch football other than the redskins? Matt Moore's been playing extremely well in Carolina and has the support of his team. Unless there's a coaching change, Moore will be the starter in 2010.

Tampa Bay - The just team spent a 1st round pick on Freeman. He'll be their starter in 2010.

St Louis - St. Louis is unquestionably drafting a QB with their 1st round pick. Its possible they could bring Campbell in and start him the first few weeks, but the pressure would be to high to start whomever they draft by the end of the season.

In general, some of you give Campbell way too much credit. On a GOOD DAY, he's a mediocre QB. On most days, he's below mediocre. Give me a list of current starting QBs in the league who have started atleast the number of games Campbell has and i garauntee you Campbell will be one of the worst, if not the worst, in the group.

He's been inconsistent his entire career - even when he's had a good line in front of him. Yes, he's thrown for over 3,000 yards this year, but almost none of his passes go for more than 5 yards... I'd say atleast 80% of the yards padding his stats are YAC. He holds on to the ball way too long, makes boneheaded plays with regularity, and is just not a good - or even average- QB for someone with his level of NFL experience.

Cleveland-Worse than ours? Interesting since it features two first round picks in Thomas and Mack, and a free-agent they spent a lot of money on in Steinbach

Oakland-If he can't beat out Russell in a fair competition, he should just retire

Carolina-Moore is playing well, but that's not to say Campbell couldn't pretty easily start over him

Tampa Bay-Agreed. But...if they make a coaching change all bets are off

St. Louis-No guarantee they'll take a QB in the first round

Campbell isn't a bad quarterback. I'm one of those who wants us to move forward without him, but I'm not going to make the guy worse than he is just to feel better about my opinion.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Cleveland-Worse than ours? Interesting since it features two first round picks in Thomas and Mack, and a free-agent they spent a lot of money on in Steinbach

Oakland-If he can't beat out Russell in a fair competition, he should just retire

Carolina-Moore is playing well, but that's not to say Campbell couldn't pretty easily start over him

Tampa Bay-Agreed. But...if they make a coaching change all bets are off

St. Louis-No guarantee they'll take a QB in the first round

Campbell isn't a bad quarterback. I'm one of those who wants us to move forward without him, but I'm not going to make the guy worse than he is just to feel better about my opinion.

Cleaveland - results speak for themselves.

Carolina - Moore's playing well, so why would they bring in someone else to start? Sure, they could bring him in to back Moore up and take over if he hits a wall or starts playing poorly, but I don't think Campbell would "easily" start over many QBs in the league. He could compete with guys like Moore, Freeman, Quinn, etc., but that doesn't mean he'd win. And I certainly think the guys with experience in the system would have the upper hand.

Oakland - I agree. What the heck is the matter with Russell anyways? What a moron.

St. Louis - nothing's garaunteed, but I think its a pretty safe bet. It'll be Suh or a QB for them, but thats a franchise that has absolutely no identity. They're probably the team in the league most desperate for a "franchise QB." The pressure will be high to draft one, although if theyre smart, they'll take Suh.

Tampa Bay - Pretty much all the teams we are discussing couuld making coaching staff changes, but I don't think that would necessarily give Campbell an advantage anywhere. There are two things about Campbell I think we should all remember: 1) Reportely, one of the main reasons Gregg Williams didn't get the job here is he wanted nothing to do with Campbell because he felt he was a "coach-killer." This is the same Gregg Williams who oversaw a defense that practiced against Campbell and observed him in great detail for 3 years. That's telling. 2) Josh McDaniels preferred Kyle Orton over Jason Campbell and thats why Cutler's not our quarterback now. Kyle Orton. Over Jason Campbell.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Cleaveland - results speak for themselves.


St. Louis - nothing's garaunteed, but I think its a pretty safe bet. It'll be Suh or a QB for them, but thats a franchise that has absolutely no identity. They're probably the team in the league most desperate for a "franchise QB." The pressure will be high to draft one, although if theyre smart, they'll take Suh.

Very similar to the Falcons situation in 2008. People were calling for them to select Glen Dorsey and instead they selected Matt Ryan. Now Glen Dorsey has been good, but nearly as dominant as people expected him to be. Ryan has also struggled in his second year but still has the makings of a franchise QB, not to mention he led his team to the playoffs last year. On top of that Ryans numbers seem to be misleading he has an 80.1 QB rating with 20 TD's and 12 ints. JC meanwhile has an 85 rating with 18 TD's and 15 int's.

Personally I'm hoping the Rams take Suh, or better yet Clausen. If Shannahan feels Bradford is the best QB for his system then I want him on our team. Select a bunch of O-Lineman starting with the second round and hope for at least a starter and at most a Marcus McNeil type player.

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Cleaveland - Campbell is not better than Brady Quinn and its a toss up with Derek Anderson. Cleaveland's offensive line is worse than ours, if you handn't noticed.

Oakland - if you paid attention, I said he would possibly start there.

Carolina - Do you watch football other than the redskins? Matt Moore's been playing extremely well in Carolina and has the support of his team. Unless there's a coaching change, Moore will be the starter in 2010.

Tampa Bay - The just team spent a 1st round pick on Freeman. He'll be their starter in 2010.

St Louis - St. Louis is unquestionably drafting a QB with their 1st round pick. Its possible they could bring Campbell in and start him the first few weeks, but the pressure would be to high to start whomever they draft by the end of the season.

In general, some of you give Campbell way too much credit. On a GOOD DAY, he's a mediocre QB. On most days, he's below mediocre. Give me a list of current starting QBs in the league who have started atleast the number of games Campbell has and i garauntee you Campbell will be one of the worst, if not the worst, in the group.

He's been inconsistent his entire career - even when he's had a good line in front of him. Yes, he's thrown for over 3,000 yards this year, but almost none of his passes go for more than 5 yards... I'd say atleast 80% of the yards padding his stats are YAC. He holds on to the ball way too long, makes boneheaded plays with regularity, and is just not a good - or even average- QB for someone with his level of NFL experience.

Finally someone that's not a Campbell HOMER!!! Geez I agree 100
%, I guess that dude doesn't watch much football or he just wants to have a below avg QB for ever lol. JC Sucks folks and I kept backing him all season and I even admitted that I was wrong about him and Cutler (Atleast Cutler throws TD'S). JC is having a career year LMAO (18Td's) GET OUT OF HERE!