Report: Shanahan to DC done deal

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Redskin Warrior

Damn $50 million 5 years hell to be brutality honest it might take 5 years for us to start being contenders.

It's amazing what Snyder has done to the league. I mean not even 10 years ago Spurrier was given a 5 year $25 million contract and now that contract has doubled for Shannahan in terms of money. I mean I kind of understand given how much money guys like Holmgen and Parcells are getting but pretty soon the Haynesworth contract will be easily matched. Who knows, in our lifetime we could see a kicker getting the Haynesworth contract, but that could be blamed on inflation.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

It's amazing what Snyder has done to the league. I mean not even 10 years ago Spurrier was given a 5 year $25 million contract and now that contract has doubled for Shannahan in terms of money. I mean I kind of understand given how much money guys like Holmgen and Parcells are getting but pretty soon the Haynesworth contract will be easily matched. Who knows, in our lifetime we could see a kicker getting the Haynesworth contract, but that could be blamed on inflation.

Baseball was ruined because of high salaries and if this trend continues the NFL won't be far behind. Just look at small market franchises like Buffalo, Jacksonville, they might end up moving to LA were the NFL failed once before. Salary cap or not, when will it reach the limit for small cap market teams for them to be non-competitive? I think it already has for some franchises. If Shanahan is worth 10 mil a year what would Gibbs be worth if he was younger and on his prime?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

Baseball was ruined because of high salaries and if this trend continues the NFL won't be far behind. Just look at small market franchises like Buffalo, Jacksonville, they might end up moving to LA were the NFL failed once before. Salary cap or not, when will it reach the limit for small cap market teams for them to be non-competitive? I think it already has for some franchises. If Shanahan is worth 10 mil a year what would Gibbs be worth if he was younger and on his prime?

The salaries AND the strike. Supposedly....the NFL is setup with revenue sharing etc.to help teams in the smaller markets. I agree that owners like Snyder drive prices up, some people have more money than sense, but didn't smaller market teams do ok before the cap? I mean, Buffalo went to 3 SB's before the cap didn't they? A lot of these markets have a bad product even with the cap because their owners don't WANT to spend. Fortunately other owners don't go as far as Snyder, if they did, we wouldn't have so much deadcap over these lousy deals we've made. Snyder always pays more than the other owners and it usually backfires. I think it's more Snyder than the league as a whole and fortunately no one wants his results. I think he makes a good case for not overspending. But hell...I don't know that much about it. I could be wrong.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

The salaries AND the strike. Supposedly....the NFL is setup with revenue sharing etc.to help teams in the smaller markets. I agree that owners like Snyder drive prices up, some people have more money than sense, but didn't smaller market teams do ok before the cap? I mean, Buffalo went to 3 SB's before the cap didn't they? A lot of these markets have a bad product even with the cap because their owners don't WANT to spend. Fortunately other owners don't go as far as Snyder, if they did, we wouldn't have so much deadcap over these lousy deals we've made. Snyder always pays more than the other owners and it usually backfires. I think it's more Snyder than the league as a whole and fortunately no one wants his results. I think he makes a good case for not overspending. But hell...I don't know that much about it. I could be wrong.

That and the advent of free agency. It wasn't as hard for small market teams to compete back then because through shrewd drafting they could assemble and KEEP a strong team even without spending as much as the big market teams. Once FA came in, the salary's sky rocketed and you cannot assemble a team over a long period. You have a couple years to get good before the strong contributors leave for greener pastures.

There is no way Dallas of the 90's, The Bills of the late 80s, or the Steelers of the 70s could have been competitive long term with free agency. Even the Skins would have had trouble since it's unlikely we could have retained the Hogs for a long period.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

That and the advent of free agency. It wasn't as hard for small market teams to compete back then because through shrewd drafting they could assemble and KEEP a strong team even without spending as much as the big market teams. Once FA came in, the salary's sky rocketed and you cannot assemble a team over a long period. You have a couple years to get good before the strong contributors leave for greener pastures.

There is no way Dallas of the 90's, The Bills of the late 80s, or the Steelers of the 70s could have been competitive long term with free agency. Even the Skins would have had trouble since it's unlikely we could have retained the Hogs for a long period.

Good point Mc2guy. Free agency is the main culprit for so much turnover in the league and one of the things I dislike the most. I think you hit the nail on the head.