Redskins lacked leadership, accountability - WP

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Allen's role will be just like it was in Tampa, just like Heckert in Philly, just like other places I can't think of right now. He will oversee the scouting and the overall draft/trade/free agency process (who's available, who to interview, who to invite for tryouts, etc). He will maintain order in the organization and provide Shanahan with information and insights and give him basically the best ammo to make a strong decision.

When people hear GM, people seem to think it means that one person calls all the shots when it comes to the draft/personnel, etc. When more often they are an executive who oversees the front office operations, but isn't necessarily the main decision maker.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Allen's role will be just like it was in Tampa, just like Heckert in Philly, just like other places I can't think of right now. He will oversee the scouting and the overall draft/trade/free agency process (who's available, who to interview, who to invite for tryouts, etc). He will maintain order in the organization and provide Shanahan with information and insights and give him basically the best ammo to make a strong decision.

So will Allen work for Shanny or Shanny for Allen?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by irish

So will Allen work for Shanny or Shanny for Allen?

They'll work with each other. But ultimately Allen will work for Shanahan. That doesn't mean he will never say no to him.

[Longtimefan]

Someone once said leaders are not made, they're born. As an organization, for the past decade a culture has been established which fosters both the lack of discipline and accountability. Perhaps the new regime will establish a strictly adhered to "chain of command" that will filter player complaints through the proper channels.

When it comes to player discipline (or lack thereof) there are a few players who both past and present stick out like a sore thumb, no need to call them out because we all know who they are. Once the culture that permits these distractions to flourish is changed, discipline and accountability issues can easily be eradicated.

[SmootSmack]

It's just kind of curious to me with Rock especially because his teammates voted him a team captain. I would have assumed that implied they looked up to him as a leader and expected to be one on the field and in the locker room.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's just kind of curious to me with Rock especially because his teammates voted him a team captain. I would have assumed that implied they looked up to him as a leader and expected to be one on the field and in the locker room.

And also as one who is not constantly bad-mouthing the way things are going, planting the seed of negativity. His complaining has become too regular, annoying as well.

[Player_HTTR]

Some people can not be lead, by anyone, no matter what is said or done. How is Rock going to put a boot in CPs or anyone elses arse and have any effect at all. CP was above the law, knew it and had grown acustom to it. Doctors don't try and get cancer to work well within the body, they try to remove it while keeping the body as healthy as possible.

[over the mountain]

heard a soundbite from rock this morning as i was coming into work. he said the skins lacked alil bit of discipline and that there are 2 types of players in the skins locker room. rule guys and guideline guys. rule guys must follow the rules and guidelines guys set their own guidelines.

thats not good for team chemistry and all that other intangible stuff that goes into winning.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by FRPLG

Not surprising other than maybe it was worse tahn we thought. Could this article scream Portis and Haynesworth anymore or is it just me?

Redskins Insider - Daniels, Wynn acknowledge need for leader

there was no accountability. cp never wanted to practice and ah never got in shape. now that allen is here this nonsense is going to stop. if these two take it a little more serious and lead by example then the rest of the guys will follow. i like how allen mentioned that he's going to expect the players to give a higher level of commitment.

[irish]

Great article and it highlighted what I've been saying all along, the chain of command was screwed up and it affected the team's performance.

[Trample the Elderly]

Last year everyone knew that the O-line was a big problem. (It has been for a while.) It was discussed in depth by the WP and on this board. The problem was left to fester and we see the results. Although, not all of this team's problems can be blamed on the o-line.

This year we know Clinton Portis and the "Me-First" players are a problem along with the o-line. (This has been a problem for awhile.) The question is, does Bruce Allen and Mike Shanahan have the ability under Synder to do what needs to be done.

In case you didn't know. (Yes, this is just my opinion.)

1) Get rid of Clinton Portis.
2) Draft O-linemen.
3) Get some decent FA O-linemen.
4) Put foot to ass.
5) Use players to the best of their ability.

Did I mention draft Tackles, Guards, and Centers?

[jamf]

Great thread! I enjoyed reading all the posts so far.

I'm glad players are speaking their mind but it feels a little like they are trying to side step the blame.
Rock had to step up this year and didn't. The same goes for Fletcher, Smoot, Daniels, Rabach and Campbell.

The team is much bigger than Portis or Haynesworth. Who was getting in Devin Thomas and Malcom Kellys face when they didn't practice or perform?

Who got in the face of Carlos Rogers and Laron Landry when they blew a coverage for the 3rd time in a game?

With all the injuries we've had this year a lot of young players had an opportunity to step up and only Fred Davis had a significant impact.

What I am most excited about is that the new coach and gm have no ties to any of the players on the team can/will be cut at any time. It's time for Devin Thomas, Malcom Kelly, Marko Mitchell and others to earn their roster spot. I would like to think that everyone on the opening day roster earned their roster spot.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

There's a synopsis from a Cooley interview on that other redskins fan site and i think its very interesting that Cooley said Campbell wasn't a leader.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

There's a synopsis from a Cooley interview on that other redskins fan site and i think its very interesting that Cooley said Campbell wasn't a leader.

I think you (or the other site) is misconstruing what he said. Cooley said Campbell has tried to be the leader and has done a decent enough job but the position he was put in by the front office-with all the talk of trying to trade him-has made it difficult for him to assume a full leadership role.

My personal opinion is that that shouldn't be an excuse. They weren't trying to trade him last season when he could have and should have assumed a leadership role, and he's not the first person to be dangled out there as trade bait only to return to his team.

Still, I don't quite think that Cooley was saying Campbell is not a leader in the definitive sense that you're implying.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

There's a synopsis from a Cooley interview on that other redskins fan site and i think its very interesting that Cooley said Campbell wasn't a leader.

They're good buds, doubt he would throw him under the boss like that. What was the context?