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Old 01-04-2010, 02:48 PM   #1
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Re: Redskins lacked leadership, accountability - WP

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To me this is where the blame on Snyder falls. He apparently has no clue that his co-mingling and relationships with the players creates such a toxic environment. Gibbs should not have stood for it. Hell if that was as big a problem as these guys say then on principle alone Zorn should have quit.
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Players need to go to and through the coach for concerns. Perhaps Zorn was to blame for some of it, he didn't exactly have much authority to put his foot down and make them listen, especially later on.

Snyder should have stopped it though. No talking to him or Vinny, talk to the coach and he'll relay anything he needs to.

With Allen and Shanahan, I believe this will stop.
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Old 01-04-2010, 02:51 PM   #2
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Correct.

Players need to go to and through the coach for concerns. Perhaps Zorn was to blame for some of it, he didn't exactly have much authority to put his foot down and make them listen, especially later on.

Snyder should have stopped it though. No talking to him or Vinny, talk to the coach and he'll relay anything he needs to.

With Allen and Shanahan, I believe this will stop.
Snyder's downfall has always been that he gets buddy buddy with players and next thing you know they're signing ridiculous 7-year contract extensions and becoming mini-HCs in the locker room.
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Old 01-04-2010, 02:54 PM   #3
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Re: Redskins lacked leadership, accountability - WP

Dang. We all knew stuff like this was going on but I did not know it was this bad.

Bruce and Mike, right this ship!
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:07 PM   #4
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Dang. We all knew stuff like this was going on but I did not know it was this bad.

Bruce and Mike, right this ship!
On a different note, Bruce - could we get rid of Wynn and Daniels? - the so called "locker room" leaders who haven't performed over the years. I can't stand those two fuckers and their righteous tirades after we get our a$$ kicked. Righteous guys with no talent are as much a symptom of what's wrong with this organization as uber-high-priced free agents. Rock can bolt too as far as I'm concerned - no way he's worth the $1.6 odd million he is due next year.
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Old 01-04-2010, 03:47 PM   #5
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Correct.

Players need to go to and through the coach for concerns. Perhaps Zorn was to blame for some of it, he didn't exactly have much authority to put his foot down and make them listen, especially later on.

Snyder should have stopped it though. No talking to him or Vinny, talk to the coach and he'll relay anything he needs to.

With Allen and Shanahan, I believe this will stop.
Allen's conference addressed this very well I thought. The HC is the leader of the team period. No one else, period. I hope the words are backed up with actions
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