Shanahan The New Head Coach Of the Redskins

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

A decade of history following the team.

So you're saying the team is never going to change. Then why bother even commenting on these things? I think everyone is in wait and see mode, but you sound almost sure that this is going to fail.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you're saying the team is never going to change. Then why bother even commenting on these things? I think everyone is in wait and see mode, but you sound almost sure that this is going to fail.

Everyone is NOT in the wait and see mode. Everyone is drinking the koolaid. I would love if the Poll in this thread had an option for wait and see. its certainly where I would have casted my vote. I'm almost certain it will fail because this is too similar to the Marty and Gibbs situations and neither of those worked out. I think Shanahan-the-coach is the 2nd best option we could have gone. if I had to rate my happiness with that aspect of the hire, i'd probably say 8 out of 10. Its just his personnel history and the front office structure that i think is likely to screw this whole thing up.

Snyder may very well have changed and is now willing to leave the big decisions to "football guys." Bruce Allen may have somehow learned how to be a personnel guy. Shanahan may very well have learned how to be a personnel guy too. but given the histories of all three men in the areas i mentioned, I feel skepticism is appropriate in this situation.

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Everyone is NOT in the wait and see mode. Everyone is drinking the koolaid. I would love if the Poll in this thread had an option for wait and see. its certainly where I would have casted my vote. I'm almost certain it will fail because this is too similar to the Marty and Gibbs situations and neither of those worked out. I think Shanahan-the-coach is the 2nd best option we could have gone. if I had to rate my happiness with that aspect of the hire, i'd probably say 8 out of 10. Its just his personnel history and the front office structure that i think is likely to screw this whole thing up.

Snyder may very well have changed and is now willing to leave the big decisions to "football guys." Bruce Allen may have somehow learned how to be a personnel guy. Shanahan may very well have learned how to be a personnel guy too. but given the histories of all three men in the areas i mentioned, I feel skepticism is appropriate in this situation.

I think Gibbs worked out. Vinny might have been an issue but I think DS and Gibbs had an understanding and got along. Gibbs left for several reasons I think. Partly due to stress over losing a player, partly his grandson's illness, partly cause he was not helping the team progress, and partly cause his Racing teams needed his guidance more. I think Tony Stewart left to start his own team and Gibbs had to look for a new Racer and probably some staff members to fill any vacancies from Stewarts leaving. I think Gibbs was just stressed out again. He left the first time due to that and I think he started feeling the stress again and said I can't do it again. Family first.

Marty is another story. He left. Marty took the one year job. Fired Vinny. Wrestled control with DS, and at the end of the season told DS I want total control of the team and front office and DS said no. Marty left. Quit.

It would be hard for any owner to relinquish total control. Most probably give up half or partial. Even today it's DS's property. He owns it, or atleast the majority of it. Giving up control to Allen whome he is not close with or too familiar with is probably hard. Then he brings in a HC that says if you want me I will have total control. DS learned from his mistake. He's giving control to Shanahan. He's letting go by simply hiring Shanahan.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Everyone is NOT in the wait and see mode. Everyone is drinking the koolaid. I would love if the Poll in this thread had an option for wait and see. its certainly where I would have casted my vote. I'm almost certain it will fail because this is too similar to the Marty and Gibbs situations and neither of those worked out. I think Shanahan-the-coach is the 2nd best option we could have gone. if I had to rate my happiness with that aspect of the hire, i'd probably say 8 out of 10. Its just his personnel history and the front office structure that i think is likely to screw this whole thing up.

Snyder may very well have changed and is now willing to leave the big decisions to "football guys." Bruce Allen may have somehow learned how to be a personnel guy. Shanahan may very well have learned how to be a personnel guy too. but given the histories of all three men in the areas i mentioned, I feel skepticism is appropriate in this situation.

Not true.

Today right at this moment, I'm happy with the moves we've made.

At the same time I am in wait and see mode. I'm not blind as to what we've seen here since Snyder bought the team. But taking everything for face value right at this moment, I think we've made good moves to change the direction of things. Nobody knows for sure how this story will end, but it's off to a good start.