The Tempered Expectations Thread

[BigHairedAristocrat]

So, what are the chances Snyder wants to have 1-2 hour meetings to break down film with Shanahan, too?

D.C. Sports Bog - Jim Zorn broke down game film with Dan Snyder

[MTK]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

So, what are the chances Snyder wants to have 1-2 hour meetings to break down film with Shanahan, too?

D.C. Sports Bog - Jim Zorn broke down game film with Dan Snyder

Sounds like that's over with thankfully

sometime during the season the weekly film sessions stopped, perhaps as part of the broader changes instituted by Allen. For example, Hellie also talked to a player recently who had attempted to see the owner to lobby for his positional coach to keep his job.

"He was literally stopped at the door by the secretary, who said all football matters have to go through Bruce Allen," Hellie told me. Which seems to make some amount of sense.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

So, what are the chances Snyder wants to have 1-2 hour meetings to break down film with Shanahan, too?

D.C. Sports Bog - Jim Zorn broke down game film with Dan Snyder

Oh god. The Danny and Zorn breaking down film together? I can only imagine how hard other NFL coaches and Execs would laugh at that scene.

I did read one great thing in that post:

Anyhow, sometime during the season the weekly film sessions stopped, perhaps as part of the broader changes instituted by Allen. For example, Hellie also talked to a player recently who had attempted to see the owner to lobby for his positional coach to keep his job.

"He was literally stopped at the door by the secretary, who said all football matters have to go through Bruce Allen," Hellie told me. Which seems to make some amount of sense.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

So, what are the chances Snyder wants to have 1-2 hour meetings to break down film with Shanahan, too?

D.C. Sports Bog - Jim Zorn broke down game film with Dan Snyder

BUT BHA, did you read the last paragraph of this article:

For example, Hellie also talked to a player recently who had attempted to see the owner to lobby for his positional coach to keep his job.

"He was literally stopped at the door by the secretary, who said all football matters have to go through Bruce Allen," Hellie told me. Which seems to make some amount of sense.

This indicates that yes in the past players walked straight up to Snyder's office (as we assumed), interestingly he was directed to Allen, not Shanahan, so there is some level of equality and separation, and BA is taking full control of the GM level issues. Seems like a good end to an otherwise unsettling article.

Also, I still don't mind if DS sits in on game film study, but what was the "Shudder" part is that JZ felt if he didn't do it, someone else(VC) would do it, and manipulate DS through it. Anyone else still rejoicing that VC is gone?!

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

BUT BHA, did you read the last paragraph of this article:

This indicates that yes in the past players walked straight up to Snyder's office (as we assumed), interestingly he was directed to Allen, not Shanahan, so there is some level of equality and separation, and BA is taking full control of the GM level issues. Seems like a good end to an otherwise unsettling article.

Also, I still don't mind if DS sits in on game film study, but what was the "Shudder" part is that JZ felt if he didn't do it, someone else(VC) would do it, and manipulate DS through it. Anyone else still rejoicing that VC is gone?!

Ugh. I shudder every time Kevin plays the sound clip of VC saying "for the fans." It literally makes me nauseaus.

BA was definitely "running interference" between the coaches/players and Snyder. The only question is, at what point does Snyder decide to go around Allen to get more involved. Not once, during Snyder's 11 year ownership of the team, has been able to stay out of the way of the men he's hired to do their jobs. Everything seems all rosey to some folks here, but what happens if Shanahan starts 2-6 in his second year with the team? Only then will we really know if things have truly changed.

People can make all the arguments they want about how its Snyders team and he should have "X" amount of involvement. But history has shown that whenever Snyder meddles, he makes a bad situation even worse.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

So, what are the chances Snyder wants to have 1-2 hour meetings to break down film with Shanahan, too?

D.C. Sports Bog - Jim Zorn broke down game film with Dan Snyder

Hellie asked the coach why he would take the time to do that with everything else he had on his docket. Zorn in turn explained that Snyder had wanted someone to watch tape with him and that "If someone was going to explain to him why plays were called and why things were run, I wanted it to be me, I didn't want it to be anybody else."


Shudder. Anyhow, sometime during the season the weekly film sessions stopped, perhaps as part of the broader changes instituted by Allen. For example, Hellie also talked to a player recently who had attempted to see the owner to lobby for his positional coach to keep his job.


"He was literally stopped at the door by the secretary, who said all football matters have to go through Bruce Allen," Hellie told me. Which seems to make some amount of sense.