Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense

dmek25 · 01-15-2010, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

In the poll two people have voted so far for "other." What is the other? An Okie 5-2? A wide tackle 6? A 46? Just curious.

other is the defense the giants used on the swinging gate play

53Fan · 01-15-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by dmek25

other is the defense the giants used on the swinging gate play

The "Shut the Gate" defense?

Trample the Elderly · 01-14-2010, 11:47 PM

I've been giving this a lot of thought. Although we don't have the players for a 3-4 IMO I think we should do it. Why? Well we don't have a very good 4-3 defense either. If you're going to do it, then do it now. I know a lot of people say that out defense is good but they haven't played good. They're not the Ravens of old. If we do go to a 3-4 I say draft MT Cody. I'm confident that Shanny-Allen will do what it takes to win in the next few years. For now I'm just going to write off next season as a building year. Honestly how many of these guys are worth it?

freddyg12 · 01-15-2010, 10:47 AM

Questions for all:
1) If Suh is available, do we take him? I say yes, best player in draft.
2) What impact will that have on 4-3 v. 3-4?
(I don't see him as a NT)

Ruhskins · 01-15-2010, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by freddyg12

Questions for all:
1) If Suh is available, do we take him? I say yes, best player in draft.
2) What impact will that have on 4-3 v. 3-4?
(I don't see him as a NT)

Suh won't get past Detroit or Tampa Bay unless he blows out his knee in the combine, commits a crime between now and the draft, or tests positive for all drugs known to man.

diehardskin2982 · 01-15-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Suh won't get past Detroit or Tampa Bay unless he blows out his knee in the combine, commits a crime between now and the draft, or tests positive for all drugs known to man.

all at the same time too!

53Fan · 01-15-2010, 11:00 AM

Playing Suh in a 3-4 would be a complete waste IMO. A BAD idea. I don't see him as a NT either Freddy.

Dirtbag59 · 01-15-2010, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

Playing Suh in a 3-4 would be a complete waste IMO. A BAD idea. I don't see him as a NT either Freddy.

Theres only one pure nosetackle in the draft and thats Terrance Cody. It's had to find guys right now in this class that weigh more then 310 pounds on the D-Line.

ChickenMonkey · 01-16-2010, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Theres only one pure nosetackle in the draft and thats Terrance Cody. It's had to find guys right now in this class that weigh more then 310 pounds on the D-Line.

Cody isnt the only goog NT in the draft,some of the draft boards have

Dan Williams NT Tennesse rated #1...Anybody know where hes slotted

Dirtbag59 · 01-16-2010, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

Cody isnt the only goog NT in the draft,some of the draft boards have

Dan Williams NT Tennesse rated #1...Anybody know where hes slotted

He's 311 pounds? Seems a little light for a pure nosetackle (you at least want a guy to be around 325 pounds), but Scouts Inc doesn't have a full review out on him yet. Then again Jay Ratliff is 303 pounds so you never know.

Nevertheless Williams is currently graded out as a first round prospect.

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-15-2010, 11:05 AM

If we want to switch to a 3-4, we should really wait until next year to do it. we have too many problems with our offense to worry about completely overhauling our defense in the same offseason. i voted for a 4-3/3-4 hybrid. stick with the 4-3 as our base package this year, but incorporate a fair amount of 3-4 to get some of our players more acclimated to it. Any defensive front 7 players we pick up in free agency or the draft this year should be able to fit in both systems.

BigHairedAristocrat · 01-15-2010, 11:50 AM

How about the 11 defense. 11 sumo wrestlers knock everyone down the second the ball is snapped.

Mc2guy · 01-15-2010, 12:20 PM

I am not sure if it has been mentioned, but G Williams used to run a lot of 3-4 looks on third down and other passing situations.

I could see us using a base 4-3 on running downs and switching to the 3-4 look on obvious passing downs to free up more edge rushing options with Orakpo.

Given his conditioning, Haynesworth is only going to play for 2 downs a series anyway, so you can keep him happy and focused on being disruptive in our 4-3 looks.

53Fan · 01-15-2010, 03:14 PM

Cody was built to be a NT....or a sumo wrestler.

Trample the Elderly · 01-15-2010, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 53Fan

Cody was built to be a NT....or a sumo wrestler.

He can move too.

View Poll Results: What defense do you want to see the Skins run in 2010?
4-3	38	24.36%
3-4	12	7.69%
4-3/3-4 hybrid	102	65.38%
other	4	2.56%
Voters: 156. You may not vote on this poll

01-14-2010, 11:47 PM	#3
Trample the Elderly Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Three Chopt Virginia Age: 48 Posts: 2,906	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense I've been giving this a lot of thought. Although we don't have the players for a 3-4 IMO I think we should do it. Why? Well we don't have a very good 4-3 defense either. If you're going to do it, then do it now. I know a lot of people say that out defense is good but they haven't played good. They're not the Ravens of old. If we do go to a 3-4 I say draft MT Cody. I'm confident that Shanny-Allen will do what it takes to win in the next few years. For now I'm just going to write off next season as a building year. Honestly how many of these guys are worth it? __________________ A funny thing happened on the way to the temple. The moneychangers bought the priesthood.

01-15-2010, 10:47 AM	#4
freddyg12 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 4,540	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense Questions for all: 1) If Suh is available, do we take him? I say yes, best player in draft. 2) What impact will that have on 4-3 v. 3-4? (I don't see him as a NT)

01-15-2010, 11:00 AM	#7
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense Playing Suh in a 3-4 would be a complete waste IMO. A BAD idea. I don't see him as a NT either Freddy. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

01-15-2010, 11:05 AM	#11
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense If we want to switch to a 3-4, we should really wait until next year to do it. we have too many problems with our offense to worry about completely overhauling our defense in the same offseason. i voted for a 4-3/3-4 hybrid. stick with the 4-3 as our base package this year, but incorporate a fair amount of 3-4 to get some of our players more acclimated to it. Any defensive front 7 players we pick up in free agency or the draft this year should be able to fit in both systems. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

01-15-2010, 11:50 AM	#12
BigHairedAristocrat Playmaker Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 4,712	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense How about the 11 defense. 11 sumo wrestlers knock everyone down the second the ball is snapped. __________________ Dolphins get good press for saving drowning humans.But we only hear about the swimmers theyve pushed ashore.You know who we havent heard from: all the people theyve pushed out to sea.Dolphins dont know what theyre doing-they just like pushing things.

01-15-2010, 12:20 PM	#13
Mc2guy Special Teams Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Burke, VA Age: 49 Posts: 287	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense I am not sure if it has been mentioned, but G Williams used to run a lot of 3-4 looks on third down and other passing situations. I could see us using a base 4-3 on running downs and switching to the 3-4 look on obvious passing downs to free up more edge rushing options with Orakpo. Given his conditioning, Haynesworth is only going to play for 2 downs a series anyway, so you can keep him happy and focused on being disruptive in our 4-3 looks.

01-15-2010, 03:14 PM	#14
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Shanahan wants a 3-4 Defense Cody was built to be a NT....or a sumo wrestler. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

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