Pierce Expected to Become UFA

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Daseal

I agree, Offiss. However Smoot has been a consistant performer.

Agreed too. I belive it is much harder to make a corner look good in a system. Sure the system wont hurt it, but they still have to do whta all corners in the league do, and Smoot did a good job. Peirce did a phenominal job, but I do think alot had to do with the system, though. Dont get me wrong, I love Peirce, but I'm more worried about Smoot than Peirce.

[GoSkins!]

There are two positions on defense that Williams addressed last year. One was corner and the other was defensive end. He said that for his system to work, he needed to corners who could play man coverage. He also said that "when Danials is healthy, we are a different defense". That tells me what they feel like they need to be successful. I want Pierce to stay, but at least I did hear that Barrow was actually making progress in his recovery finally.

[CRT3]

The real question is, has Danny and the Redskins ever lost a Spring of publicity and the top team in Free Agency. They missed on one or 2 last year but all in all they were the cream of the crop in the NFL. So should we doubt them on this. Sure we might lose a few players but those aare guys that are after the money and as we saw with N.E. a whole team wins. Smoot I don't mind losing even though he will have to be replaced but apparently we replaced Bailey last year pretty successfully with Spriggs. Be patient as Redskin One is being cleanned and fueled for takeoff next Monday night.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by CRT3

The real question is, has Danny and the Redskins ever lost a Spring of publicity and the top team in Free Agency. They missed on one or 2 last year but all in all they were the cream of the crop in the NFL. So should we doubt them on this. Sure we might lose a few players but those aare guys that are after the money and as we saw with N.E. a whole team wins. Smoot I don't mind losing even though he will have to be replaced but apparently we replaced Bailey last year pretty successfully with Spriggs. Be patient as Redskin One is being cleanned and fueled for takeoff next Monday night.

I would say that the Eagles made a much bigger free agent splash than we did last year. Owens and Kearse were the prizes, and they got more than their money's worth out of Trotter. Among our "big name" signings - Brunell, Daniels, and Barrow. One didn't play, one played sparingly, and one played himself out of a job.

Also, as much as I'd like to follow the New England paradigm, we have a culture of acquisition to overcome. This team has been about acquiring the biggest name for a long time, and that isn't something that can be turned of like a faucet.

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I would say that the Eagles made a much bigger free agent splash than we did last year. Owens and Kearse were the prizes, and they got more than their money's worth out of Trotter. Among our "big name" signings - Brunell, Daniels, and Barrow. One didn't play, one played sparingly, and one played himself out of a job.

Also, as much as I'd like to follow the New England paradigm, we have a culture of acquisition to overcome. This team has been about acquiring the biggest name for a long time, and that isn't something that can be turned of like a faucet.

Agreement on all 3 that you stated. But we signed Pierce, Spriggs, Washington, Griffth, Walt Harris, Tupa, and traded for Trash and Portis. We also drafted Taylor and Cooley. Those are just thenames that pop to my head. So I consider we did pretty good. The Eagles had 2 major ones and much needed areas. Did they win the Super Bowl, which was the supposed goal of these 2 major aquasitions. Expect them to be in Salary cap hell in a few years. They drafted 2 corners in the draft a few years ago because they saw big contract comming due. My personal feeling is the NFL should adopt the Lary Bird rule into there cap. Or at least luxury tax those who go over the cap just like MLB. Mini George would love this.

[BrudLee]

Originally Posted by CRT3

Agreement on all 3 that you stated. But we signed Pierce, Spriggs, Washington, Griffth, Walt Harris, Tupa, and traded for Trash and Portis. We also drafted Taylor and Cooley. Those are just thenames that pop to my head. So I consider we did pretty good. The Eagles had 2 major ones and much needed areas. Did they win the Super Bowl, which was the supposed goal of these 2 major aquasitions. Expect them to be in Salary cap hell in a few years. They drafted 2 corners in the draft a few years ago because they saw big contract comming due. My personal feeling is the NFL should adopt the Lary Bird rule into there cap. Or at least luxury tax those who go over the cap just like MLB. Mini George would love this.

Those you listed were all good signings (Pierce was already here, but the rest were new), but were they all "impact" signings? Washington, Springs, and Griffin clearly were. Harris was very good in nickel duty - good enough that the team isn't desperate to retain Smoot - but he was just the nickel CB. The best punter in the world is still just a punter (and check the archives - I was on the Tupa train before the signing took place). I love Thrash as a Redskin because of his special teams play and attitude, but as a big time acquisition, he falls short (especially since we possibly could have gotten him without trading the pick). Portis is a monster, but if the two arguments (1 - we paid too much too get him, and 2 - he isn't that much better than Betts) are valid, then Portis doesn't count as an impact signing either. (I don't agree with the Portis-bashers, I'm just stating their points)

As for Taylor and Cooley, we have been overdue for a draft pick that turned out the way he was supposed to. Taylor shows flashes of brilliance, and Cooley will be garnering Pro Bowl votes very soon (especially if the NFL continues to list him as a fullback). But since every team gets to draft players, I didn't consider them in the same light as the free agents. I believe we had a great draft last year, but the free agent class will be remembered for it's mistakes rather than its successes.

[CRT3]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

Those you listed were all good signings (Pierce was already here, but the rest were new), but were they all "impact" signings? Washington, Springs, and Griffin clearly were. Harris was very good in nickel duty - good enough that the team isn't desperate to retain Smoot - but he was just the nickel CB. The best punter in the world is still just a punter (and check the archives - I was on the Tupa train before the signing took place). I love Thrash as a Redskin because of his special teams play and attitude, but as a big time acquisition, he falls short (especially since we possibly could have gotten him without trading the pick). Portis is a monster, but if the two arguments (1 - we paid too much too get him, and 2 - he isn't that much better than Betts) are valid, then Portis doesn't count as an impact signing either. (I don't agree with the Portis-bashers, I'm just stating their points)

Ok I can see your point about the drafted players. Pierce was a RFA last year and had a offer from the Vikings, which the Redskins matched. So that was a good match. Everybody puts there news into the failures and forgets about the successes. We had far more successes last year then failures. Brunnel is a failure and Daniels supposbly provides great leadership. Barrow is still on the team and if he performs this year then you might eat your words on that one. And there is no doubt in my mind Portis was a great deal.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

I would say that the Eagles made a much bigger free agent splash than we did last year. Owens and Kearse were the prizes, and they got more than their money's worth out of Trotter. Among our "big name" signings - Brunell, Daniels, and Barrow. One didn't play, one played sparingly, and one played himself out of a job.

Also, as much as I'd like to follow the New England paradigm, we have a culture of acquisition to overcome. This team has been about acquiring the biggest name for a long time, and that isn't something that can be turned of like a faucet.

Yes the Eagles did a good job in free agency but it was all in vain. Kearse was dominated in the superbowl and Owens was Owens And Donavan Mcpuked. LOL They maybe a great team but they have failed all four years. OH, I wised we could fail a little like that.