Ford Tops in Vehicle Residual Value

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Buster

Ford beats Toyota in quality rankings - Autos- msnbc.com

Truckblog - Ford's 2008 Vehicles including Super Duty Beat Toyota, Honda in Brand Quality

Ford wins most awards in renowned quality study on Yahoo! Video

The Ford Story: Ford Beats Every Auto Company in Quality

Two of those links are 3 years old, and one is 18 months old, and none are from JDP. Hardly current. They don't support your initial assertion, either. The 4th reports numbers that indicate Ford is tops in initial quality, but isn't from JDP. Initial quality is not quite the same thing as "quality". At all.

Here is the press release for the JDP link I posted above, if anyone wants to take a look at the details.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Two of those links are 3 years old, and one is 18 months old, and none are from JDP. Hardly current. They don't support your initial assertion, either. The 4th reports numbers that indicate Ford is tops in initial quality, but isn't from JDP. Initial quality is not quite the same thing as "quality". At all.

Here is the press release for the JDP link I posted above, if anyone wants to take a look at the details.

I always wondered what initial quality meant. Apparently from my research it is just how well the car performs in it's first three months, pffff...who cares. I want to know if it will least 10 years and 200k miles if it can do that the first three months should be a cake walk.

Some of these awards are just marketing tools.

Interesting read:

Ford Surpasses Honda In Initial Quality and Ties Toyota (The Torque Report)

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I always wondered what initial quality meant. Apparently from my research it is just how well the car performs in it's first three months, pffff...who cares. I want to know if it will least 10 years and 200k miles if it can do that the first three months should be a cake walk.

Some of these awards are just marketing tools.

Interesting read:

Ford Surpasses Honda In Initial Quality and Ties Toyota (The Torque Report)

Yep, it's a reliability survey that accounts for the first 90 days of ownership.

[Trample the Elderly]

I own a Ford Van. It isn't fuel savvy but I don't care. Old ladies have a knack for running into me. Ford has a long track record of having a serious beef with the Gov going back to Henry Ford. So that's cool in my book. I've had a Hundai before and it was a good vehicle as well. Automobiles in general these days will last a long time if you keep up with them. I usually jack mine up with K&N filers, top off the line fluids, and check on them constantly. I wish Ford would manufacture more autos in the US. If Congress put some tariffs on autos not made in the US maybe . . . Perhaps the UAW would stop trying to kill the golden goose too?

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I own a Ford Van. It isn't fuel savvy but I don't care. Old ladies have a knack for running into me. Ford has a long track record of having a serious beef with the Gov going back to Henry Ford. So that's cool in my book. I've had a Hundai before and it was a good vehicle as well. Automobiles in general these days will last a long time if you keep up with them. I usually jack mine up with K&N filers, top off the line fluids, and check on them constantly. I wish Ford would manufacture more autos in the US. If Congress put some tariffs on autos not made in the US maybe . . . Perhaps the UAW would stop trying to kill the golden goose too?

i should have figured you would think this.
and by the way....
Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. said today that it would recall 2.3 million vehicles for sticking accelerator pedals, in addition to the 4.2 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles already being recalled.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i should have figured you would think this.
and by the way....
Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. said today that it would recall 2.3 million vehicles for sticking accelerator pedals, in addition to the 4.2 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles already being recalled.

I'm not saying all trade unions are bad. Many of my relatives are union. I'm just saying some of the UAW's policies make the companies they work for uncompetitive in the US and Canada.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by dmek25

i should have figured you would think this.
and by the way....
Toyota Motor Sales U.S.A. said today that it would recall 2.3 million vehicles for sticking accelerator pedals, in addition to the 4.2 million Toyota and Lexus vehicles already being recalled.

What does a recall have to do with a union? Remember the pintos also known as the rolling bombs or the chevy truck with the side sadle gas tanks which also blew up when in an accident. My Ford has had 3 recalls but I never took it in. If I'm correct those recalls you posted are to just add something to hold down the drivers floor mat. I only own US cars and just making a point.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by cpayne5

Two of those links are 3 years old, and one is 18 months old, and none are from JDP. Hardly current. They don't support your initial assertion, either. The 4th reports numbers that indicate Ford is tops in initial quality, but isn't from JDP. Initial quality is not quite the same thing as "quality". At all.

Here is the press release for the JDP link I posted above, if anyone wants to take a look at the details.

I never said the quality reports were the purpose of the thread, they hit the top of the lists a few years ago. This thread is about Ford topping the Residual Value charts.

We get it, you're not a Ford fan.

[cpayne5]

Originally Posted by Buster

I never said the quality reports were the purpose of the thread, they hit the top of the lists a few years ago. This thread is about Ford topping the Residual Value charts.

We get it, you're not a Ford fan.

I had two issues with the first post. The first being the title (which didn't accurately reflect what the article's text said), and the second being this sentence: "After surpassing Toyota in quality (according to JD Power), now they beat Toyota in another key category:". You didn't, and still don't have any evidence to back up that statement.

Who said I'm not a Ford fan? Did you not read my previous posts? I'm fairly brand agnostic (Chevy, Honda, Toyota, and Chrysler all represented in my garage). Give me the $60k for an F450, and I'll gladly add it to my stable. I also made a strong case for a Ford Fusion when Daseal was looking to buy a new car a few months ago.

I'll end with this quote from my first post...

Ford has earned the credit being heaped on them. Bashing other companies in the name of Ford's success, is not warranted, IMO, though.