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Old 02-23-2005, 11:21 AM   #1
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Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA

3 straight NFC Championships and a SB appearance? I wish we had those sort of problems.

Say what you will about the Eagles, but for the last 4 years they've been one of the best teams in the NFC and the entire league.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:27 AM   #2
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3 straight NFC Championships and a SB appearance? I wish we had those sort of problems.

Say what you will about the Eagles, but for the last 4 years they've been one of the best teams in the NFC and the entire league.
I agree If you notice I ended by saying I wish we could fail like that.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:39 AM   #3
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I agree If you notice I ended by saying I wish we could fail like that.
Yeah I know, I was just elaborating on your point.
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Old 02-23-2005, 11:52 AM   #4
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Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA

Losing Antonio Pierce would likely be a serious loss. He has been a coach on the field, the quarterback of the defense. Our defense could take a serious step backwards without him on the field.

Still, you can't overpay for one player - that would have a worse consequence. If Mike Barrow can get healthy, though, that would mitigate the loss of Pierce a lot because he can fill in that quarterback of the defense role. But Pierce would be a mainstay for years to come if we could sign him. Hopefully, he won't sign somewhere else just to make a little more money.

With the mess with Coles, this is what can happen when you don't sign "all for one and one for all" team players, and instead shoot for all the big star signings. Fortunately, in the Gibbs era, we have changed our philosophy. However, we are still in transition and it takes time to restructure your team.

Losing Smoot would be unfortunate, but we have good players who are ready to move into that spot, who may turn out to be new Antonio Pierce's, and there are free agents out there we can look at.
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Old 02-23-2005, 09:29 PM   #5
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Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA

BrudLee:

You forgot to mention Washington and Griffen as two of our top-shelf signings in free agency last year. They played a lot and they played VERY well!


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I suggest that Danny Boy has a history of getting three catagories of players:

1. Players who used to be good (Deion, Bruuuuce, Mark Carrier) but are living on their reputations when he signs them.

2. Players who have prodigious physical skills but never seem to be on winning teams (Jeff George)

3. Players who are good but who get paid as if they are already in the Hall of Fame (Trotter, Morton, Coles)

You said they were "pretty close last year" . Pretty close to what? They were 6-10 and the division winner was 13-3. It looks to me as if they lost the division by 7 games and that is more games than they won all year.
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Old 02-23-2005, 10:13 PM   #6
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BrudLee:

You forgot to mention Washington and Griffen as two of our top-shelf signings in free agency last year. They played a lot and they played VERY well!


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I suggest that Danny Boy has a history of getting three catagories of players:

1. Players who used to be good (Deion, Bruuuuce, Mark Carrier) but are living on their reputations when he signs them.

2. Players who have prodigious physical skills but never seem to be on winning teams (Jeff George)

3. Players who are good but who get paid as if they are already in the Hall of Fame (Trotter, Morton, Coles)

You said they were "pretty close last year" . Pretty close to what? They were 6-10 and the division winner was 13-3. It looks to me as if they lost the division by 7 games and that is more games than they won all year.
Is it so much Danny Boy or is it REALLY Vince!!! We really need a DECENT GM that doesn't go by reputation as much as what pieces can actually fit with what we have, and would work with what the team wants to do offensively and defensively..............
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Old 02-24-2005, 05:58 AM   #7
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Re: Pierce Expected to Become UFA

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I suggest that Danny Boy has a history of getting three catagories of players:

1. Players who used to be good (Deion, Bruuuuce, Mark Carrier) but are living on their reputations when he signs them.

2. Players who have prodigious physical skills but never seem to be on winning teams (Jeff George)

3. Players who are good but who get paid as if they are already in the Hall of Fame (Trotter, Morton, Coles)

You said they were "pretty close last year" . Pretty close to what? They were 6-10 and the division winner was 13-3. It looks to me as if they lost the division by 7 games and that is more games than they won all year.
You mentioned to Brud that we had some good signing last year such as Grifftth and Washington but what catagory do they fall in? Carrier I would debate with you cause he acutally played pretty good as well as Deon. Remember Deon left because of Shot being a task master. The last catagory you put in #3 is what those guys got on the market and quite honestly if they can get it then they should get it. Coles has been great except for this current little bump and the fumble he had in Cleveland at the end of the game this year. Trotter was lossed to serious knee injury into his 1st year. It take 2 years to recover from that and the system just did not fit him. Either change the system or get rid of the player. Apparently he has proved his value in Philly with a Pro Bowl.

As to being so close, they really were. They competed in every single game to the very end where they had a chance to win in all games up to the very end. The game was never over at halftime. In fact if they just averaged 19 points a game they would be 12-5. I think that is pretty clse don't you?
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