Portis staying?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

IF our cap sheets are correct, he's getting $10M this year. Either way it's too much, I'd rather spend the $$$ on solid FA O-Lineman and the rest on on a FA RB or rookie RB.

I think the difference is either pro-rated bonus money (my guess) or recoverable bonus money (not likely). I know the 6 million figure represents a base salary figure that Vinny guarenteed to Portis in exchange for re-doing his contract last February.

It was written into the CBA that in the last capped year, contracts could only be restructed to players if their salaries were guarenteed through the uncapped year. The reason for this is pretty intuitive.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I think the difference is either pro-rated bonus money (my guess) or recoverable bonus money (not likely). I know the 6 million figure represents a base salary figure that Vinny guarenteed to Portis in exchange for re-doing his contract last February.

It was written into the CBA that in the last capped year, contracts could only be restructed to players if their salaries were guarenteed through the uncapped year. The reason for this is pretty intuitive.

Our cap sheets show a salary of $ 7.1M and a cap bonus of $ 2.9M. I believe the cap bonus is due by the start of Free Agency (March 5th), so we'll know if Portis will be with us by then.

Schneed or CrazyCanuck can correct me if I'm wrong on this.

[SolidSnake84]

I will say i've noticed that the last little bit of people who supported him went the way of the dodo after he blasted Campbell for his "work habits" LOL at that.

There is a reason he is described by fellow redskins as "the worst team mate ever"

[SolidSnake84]

And what happens guys when after a few games its the same old song and dance provided he is still taking up a roster spot by then??

[MTK]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

And what happens guys when after a few games its the same old song and dance provided he is still taking up a roster spot by then??

Cut him and move on.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

And what happens guys when after a few games its the same old song and dance provided he is still taking up a roster spot by then??

That's a good question. I'd trade or cut him ASAP myself, but I have a feeling the coaches will make the right decision. I don't think Danny has a hand in it anymore. I think for the first time in a long time Portis is going to have to EARN his place on this team. We'll see if he's up to the task I guess. The rules will be laid out for him, the balls in his court. Time to nut up or shutup eh Snake?

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

You guys are funny. I'm busy, i'll explain why yall are funny later

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

You guys are funny. I'm busy, i'll explain why yall are funny later

Spare us, we get it. He's a baller and can do no wrong. With Shanahan on board he's bound to run for 1500 yards and 15 TDs again.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Okay, quickly, you realize that one of you anti-portis guys compared a pro bowl, multi-thousand yard season running playmaker who broke team records set by Riggins (who's jersey i have) to HEATH FRIGGIN SHULER!?!?!

You can call him a 'has been' but you can't compare him to a 'never was'!!?!?!

HA HA HA HA HA! You guys crack me up!

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Okay, quickly, you realize that one of you anti-portis guys compared a pro bowl, multi-thousand yard season running playmaker who broke team records set by Riggins (who's jersey i have) to HEATH FRIGGIN SHULER!?!?!

You can call him a 'has been' but you can't compare him to a 'never was'!!?!?!

HA HA HA HA HA! You guys crack me up!

You may have been a little cracked before you got here.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Okay, quickly, you realize that one of you anti-portis guys compared a pro bowl, multi-thousand yard season running playmaker who broke team records set by Riggins (who's jersey i have) to HEATH FRIGGIN SHULER!?!?!

You can call him a 'has been' but you can't compare him to a 'never was'!!?!?!

HA HA HA HA HA! You guys crack me up!

Yes, I agree Portis has been more productive than Heath Shuler. It was a bad jersey reference, for what was a joke.....

But what you have no counter for is the analysis of Portis and that his performance and abilities have significantly declined.

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Okay, quickly, you realize that one of you anti-portis guys compared a pro bowl, multi-thousand yard season running playmaker who broke team records set by Riggins (who's jersey i have) to HEATH FRIGGIN SHULER!?!?!

You can call him a 'has been' but you can't compare him to a 'never was'!!?!?!

HA HA HA HA HA! You guys crack me up!

The blurb about Heath Schuler was a direct shot to Slingin' Sammy. I suspect he wont be happy.

The only team record Portis broke was the single season rushing yardage. He has yet to surpass the all-time career yards held by Riggo, nor has he surpassed Riggo's single season rushing TD record (24). Seeing as how he cant manage 50 yards a game on most days, i think Riggins' all time record is safe..

What is cracking up is your comments in here. Seriously dude are you just having a laugh at our expense? Its almost like you're trying to set somebody off...

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Ok, setting the record straight, I don't think he is the best back ever. I've already said that I am not pro-ratting players out. No i don't think 1500+ is a given for his production next year provided that he gets a decent o-line, but I DO think it is very possible being that just last year, not 6 years ago, LAST YEAR he got 1,487 yards only having a decent line for half a season. THis year the line fell apart early and not one of our backs did any better running than Portis. Not saying that no running back could, but the ones we have didn't.

Okay, maybe watching the games you've noticed a decrease in speed. Fine. Expected. He's getting older. 28 is 'old' in HB years. Well, some HB's have their best years around 30. Riggins had his best years later on. (example, not comparison) I mean, apart from saying that you think he looks slower, you have nothing else to lean on. Wow, a whole year ago he missed 1500 by 13 yards. I guess you're right. He's a piece of crap and obviously will never break 1500 again. Sorry for being so obtuse.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

I didn't say he broke ALL Riggo's records, sheesh! You're reaching. Portis has 6 seasons of 1200+ yards. Riggins has two. it took 14 years for Riggins to get 11300 yards, Portis is about 1600 shy in like 6 fewer season. I'm just sayin...

As for TD's, getting the last yard was the riggo-drill's job. Dude was a beast! I wear his jersey proudly!

[MonkFan4Life]

I love hoe we can say that Portis should go but there are so many who love the "Never Has Done Anything For Us" Jason Campbell. But then again, onve he gets another contract which means more money YOU ALL WILL turn on him. WATCH !!!!

Portis was 13 yards shy of 1,500 the year before last behind the same line that the underachiever couldn't produce behind. The guy gets hurt ;ast season and everyone says to let him go, or that we should. That man should and WILL be here next year. Shanny knows what he had in Clinton Portis because he NEVER had another back like Portis after he sent him here. Get off his back, he already has put the team there on the way to the playoffs twice.