brett favre

[MTK]

I hope he comes back, he proved this year he can still play at a very high level.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

When i think of Bret Favre, i imagine how i would feel if Darrell Green spent his last two years with the Dallas Cowboys... I usually black out and wake up with something in the room smashed to bits and dried up snot under my nose. I'm sorry, but i just can't get over what he did. I'm all about loyalty and the fans. Right or wrong, the fans are the reason you get paid to play the best game ever made. If he's better than Aaron Rogers, then he should've BEAT Aaron Rogers and reclaimed the starting spot that HE GAVE UP and took the team that stood by him all that time. Art Monk was a Jet too, yeah, but he didn't go to the Cowboys after that! I was giggling my butt off when Suisam missed those fieldgoals in the CowGirl/Vikings playoff game!

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

When i think of Bret Favre, i imagine how i would feel if Darrell Green spent his last two years with the Dallas Cowboys... I usually black out and wake up with something in the room smashed to bits and dried up snot under my nose. I'm sorry, but i just can't get over what he did. I'm all about loyalty and the fans. Right or wrong, the fans are the reason you get paid to play the best game ever made. If he's better than Aaron Rogers, then he should've BEAT Aaron Rogers and reclaimed the starting spot that HE GAVE UP and took the team that stood by him all that time. Art Monk was a Jet too, yeah, but he didn't go to the Cowboys after that! I was giggling my butt off when Suisam missed those fieldgoals in the CowGirl/Vikings playoff game!

Dude...where have you been? The Packers told Favre they didn't want him back. He would have come back to the Pack if management hadn't basically told him to take a hike. The also didn't want him playing in the division, which is why he went to the Jets last year.

As for his legacy, say what you want, the Vikings aren't in that game without Favre. His passing numbers this year were sick, and the Vikes went from being a running team to a passing team this year due to a decline of their o-line and running back play. He made a bad throw...one that he wouldn't of had to make if 3 different players other than him hadn't fumbled the ball during the game.

I am no Favre apologist...he makes some stupid throws at times, but you can't tell me he isn't one of the top 5 qb's in the game right now, even at 40...look at his numbers, look at the team wins. And for those claiming he isn't a leader, go talk to his players in Minnesota right now and I'd bet a months salary they'd give a different story.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I hope he comes back, he proved this year he can still play at a very high level.

I agree. And for those of you criticizing Favre for the INT (and those in previous years), all i have to say to you is this:

1) Minnesota wouldn't have even made the playoffs with Tavaris or Sage as thier QB. AP has been a non-factor most of the year. Favre pretty much carried the team on his back all year.

2) Favre didnt lose the game with his INT. The Vikings defense and special teams lost the game by allowing the saints to start from their own 40 in OT and drive all the way to the vikings 30 to give the Saints an easy FG.

3) Favres had what: 8-9 INTs compared to almost 40 TDs all season (including playoffs). what more do you want from a QB?

4) Favre didn't lose the game - the vikings offense as a whole lost the game for putting the ball on the ground 6 times. The only reason the Vikings were even in this game despite the turnovers was Favre.

5) The Vikings O-line was HORRIBLE. COMPLETELY. UTTERLY. HORRIBLE. The saints front 7 is not that good. Even our horrid O-line did a better job of protecting Campbell than the Vikings' did protecting Favre.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I agree. And for those of you criticizing Favre for the INT (and those in previous years), all i have to say to you is this:

1) Minnesota wouldn't have even made the playoffs with Tavaris or Sage as thier QB. AP has been a non-factor most of the year. Favre pretty much carried the team on his back all year.

2) Favre didnt lose the game with his INT. The Vikings defense and special teams lost the game by allowing the saints to start from their own 40 in OT and drive all the way to the vikings 30 to give the Saints an easy FG.

3) Favres had what: 8-9 INTs compared to almost 40 TDs all season (including playoffs). what more do you want from a QB?

4) Favre didn't lose the game - the vikings offense as a whole lost the game for putting the ball on the ground 6 times. The only reason the Vikings were even in this game despite the turnovers was Favre.

I agree with everything you say, and yet I also see the stat that Favre's last throw with the Packers, Jets, and (so far) the Vikings were INT's. This last pass, he should have and could have pulled it down, or thrown it away. It definitely is a case of a guy wanting to win so bad he forgets what got him in the game this year. To me it's a shame that such a great career gets marred by these plays.