Portis staying?

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

I really don't get where you guys are getting your stats and ideas. This season, he went out with a cuncussion, but nobody who came in after him had similar stats. LAST season, he began the season with a half decent line and was at a 1800yard season pace, once we lost the best of our line, he STILL managed to get 1400 yards. Now, I personally don't consider getting 1400 with a crappy line as "Losing a step" when at his best, he only ended his highest season with 100 more yards.

Also, when he "Threw his teamates under the bus" he was only telling the truth! When starting back at our own 2 or 3 yardline our coach Zorn, moronicaly, called a slow developing sweep to the right. Sellars was CP's blocker and both of them were in the endzone. Sellars had two choices of people to block. He blocked the wrong one and Portis was saftied. He had nowhere to go and the rest of the line provided no support. His only chance at avoiding a safety would be Sellars making the right block. Sellars made similar blocking errors all game and CP was the one being punished, beat up, and battered because of them. If this was the only game that sellars showed his skills deminishing, then i'd say, "Bad Portis"... but he cost us several games. He also ended what could've been Cambells first big game win against the then undefeated saints by fumbling to end the drive in overtime.

This has gotten to be one of the most lamest excuses I've ever heard. Throw your teamate or coach under the bus and justify it with, "He was only telling the truth". I guess some of the linemen should have gone on radio and said, " We'd have a better running game if Portis would come to practice and stop falling over his own feet". Or, " Maybe if Portis would hit the freakin hole like he's suppose to we would have gotten the first down". They would have only been telling the truth. You don't come out and publicly criticize a teamate or coach after they make a mistake. At least professionals don't. Portis is the LAST person on this team who should be throwing stones. On most teams, you don't see that. That would be like AP fumbling 3 times and then throwing Favre under the bus for throwing an INT. Portis needed to step his game up but instead blamed his teamates. PUBLICLY.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Portis is the MAIN one that has the right to comlain. People got on Haynesworth too. That's my dog! THe man shoved two 300+ pound guys backward play after play, yet people whined that he took too many breathers. He singlehandedly changed the runningstyles of every team we played! Look ath how dallas treated us without him! They ran up the gut and dared us to stop them. whenever one of our guys was getting roughed up, Big Al came rushin' in like "WHAT! BACK UP FOOL!" and swingin! He's the man! Was he happy about the system? No. Did he keep quite about it? Heck yeah! Game after excruciating game! He didn't say a thing till the season was almost over. Then when he couldn't take it anymore, he politely stated that he wasn't used to the fullest. Orakpo wasnt either. Now, Portis is in the same spot, only on offense! Portis and Moss are the only game changers we got on offense. Cooley, yeah, but only when we're in a rhythm. If the line trashed portis, they would be lying. He isn't missing holes, he isn't tripping any more or less than any other back, he isn't going at half speed, and he isn't giving less than his all! The man has a strong personality, but to put him in the same category as T.O. is a bit much. Besides, once again, HE WAS TELLING THE TRUTH!

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Don't get me wrong, trashing a player on your team is not 'nice'. i just think it's not an unpardonable sin. I would much rather hear that cooley quote abaout how Campbell needs "bigger balls", than hear him pretend there is no issue. It's not like he does it all the time. It's not like it COSTS us any GAMES. Besides, sometimes calling people out makes them step up. Ask Rich Gannon how he took the Raiders to the SuperBowl. If the line doesn't like it, then they need to step up. If Sellers doesnt like it, then he needs to do his job right. Once they do... THEN you can properly evaluate Portis. People compare Jason to the best and call him crap instead of the 20 starters he's either as good as or getter dispite have been sacked twice as much and hit 4 times as much.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Don't get me wrong, trashing a player on your team is not 'nice'. i just think it's not an unpardonable sin. I would much rather hear that cooley quote abaout how Campbell needs "bigger balls", than hear him pretend there is no issue. It's not like he does it all the time. It's not like it COSTS us any GAMES. Besides, sometimes calling people out makes them step up. Ask Rich Gannon how he took the Raiders to the SuperBowl. If the line doesn't like it, then they need to step up. If Sellers doesnt like it, then he needs to do his job right. Once they do... THEN you can properly evaluate Portis. People compare Jason to the best and call him crap instead of the 20 starters he's either as good as or getter dispite have been sacked twice as much and hit 4 times as much.

The difference is if you're one of those guys who are giving 100% by going to practice, keeping yourself in shape, attending OTA's and being there with your teamates learning and practicing that weeks gameplan, then yeah, you have a right to speak out about people who AREN'T doing those things. Portis was not one of those guys.

[Beneil (diehard since 87)]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

The difference is if you're one of those guys who are giving 100% by going to practice, keeping yourself in shape, attending OTA's and being there with your teamates learning and practicing that weeks gameplan, then yeah, you have a right to speak out about people who AREN'T doing those things. Portis was not one of those guys.

Yeah. Good thing Favre precticed and worked out with the eam ever since the begining of training camp to build the necessary co... wait... oh, he didn't? My bad. I thought ALL the great ones did.

Also, it's not like Portis missed a ton of practices. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. I do believe in cohesion and time in the trenches together to build a bond. ESPECIALLY FOR THE O-LINE. But the fact of the matter is that CP didn't miss than many practices and or workouts. CP plays hurt like a warrior and plays better INJURED than 80% of the other starters int eh league at peak condition

[SolidSnake84]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Yeah. Good thing Favre precticed and worked out with the eam ever since the begining of training camp to build the necessary co... wait... oh, he didn't? My bad. I thought ALL the great ones did.

Also, it's not like Portis missed a ton of practices. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. I do believe in cohesion and time in the trenches together to build a bond. ESPECIALLY FOR THE O-LINE. But the fact of the matter is that CP didn't miss than many practices and or workouts. CP plays hurt like a warrior and plays better INJURED than 80% of the other starters int eh league at peak condition

You're way off base on Favre. Mr. Favre did indeed practice with his team-mates...he played in the preseason...2 things Portis refuses to do. Dude you obviously don't even watch the NFL. This is crazy some of your statements..Do you seriously think that Brett didn't practice in Minnesota? It was on TV the 2nd day he was there...he was in a jersey out there throwing with the receivers....where do you get this stuff?

second statement: "CP didn't miss that many practices"....do you not consider "ALL" to be that many? The man didnt work out at all or practice not even once!! Jesus Christ man get real...And playing better hurt than 80% of the starters in the league?? You're on some bad shit dude. Portis played like garbage before he was injured...and now you're saying even hurt he played better than guys like Peterson, Chris Johnson, Shonn Green....seriously man your posts are messed up

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)

Yeah. Good thing Favre precticed and worked out with the eam ever since the begining of training camp to build the necessary co... wait... oh, he didn't? My bad. I thought ALL the great ones did.

Also, it's not like Portis missed a ton of practices. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill. I do believe in cohesion and time in the trenches together to build a bond. ESPECIALLY FOR THE O-LINE. But the fact of the matter is that CP didn't miss than many practices and or workouts. CP plays hurt like a warrior and plays better INJURED than 80% of the other starters int eh league at peak condition

Favre also doesn't talk trash about his teamates and takes responsibility for his own mistakes. You're obviously a big fan of Portis... moreso than his own teamates it appears. Live in that world if you want to. Comparing Portis to Favre is a joke. Favre doesn't miss games injured or not. But far be it from me to try to break up true romance. Whatever man.