Cut Chris Samuels

[offiss]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Samuels is going to be eating over $9M in cap space this season unless he restructures. I don't care how great a player is, you can't have one guy taking up that much space.

If he doesn't restructure you have to release him and figure out a plan B. Hopefully Wilson or Molinaro will be ready, or you take a look at the available free agents, or you shuffle the line and perhaps move Jansen to LT.

That does it for me $9M I would cut him in a heart beat, if we look at Samuels objectivly and forget about where he was drafted it's a no brainer, if Samuels was a low draft pick nobody would be talking about him as a top tackle, but because he was drafted so high we all look at him as fullfilling that draft position, well he hasen't! We saw 2 season's ago a nobody named Brandon Whiney come in and do a better job than Samuel's, I say we have to put Wilson and Molinaro to work this season, they will have their problem's at times but so does Samuel's, Samuel's is not a fighter he's not aggresive he's the big daddy of offensive linemen, it sound's like these kid's are fighter's that's what we need up front.

We can take his $9M work out a deal with Cole's trade him off and still get what we need, I have no desire whatsover to bring Samuel's back for anything close to what he's been making

[celts32]

Originally Posted by offiss

That does it for me $9M I would cut him in a heart beat, if we look at Samuels objectivly and forget about where he was drafted it's a no brainer, if Samuels was a low draft pick nobody would be talking about him as a top tackle, but because he was drafted so high we all look at him as fullfilling that draft position, well he hasen't! We saw 2 season's ago a nobody named Brandon Whiney come in and do a better job than Samuel's, I say we have to put Wilson and Molinaro to work this season, they will have their problem's at times but so does Samuel's, Samuel's is not a fighter he's not aggresive he's the big daddy of offensive linemen, it sound's like these kid's are fighter's that's what we need up front.

We can take his $9M work out a deal with Cole's trade him off and still get what we need, I have no desire whatsover to bring Samuel's back for anything close to what he's been making

Samuels gave up like 1 sack all year. He's one of the best in the game. His name was rarely called during a ame which means he was doing his job. And check the salary charts because LT's get some of the biggest contracts in football after QB's.

Many people on this board would cut him for cap reasons which is one thing, but you are the first to actually question his ability as a player.

The Redskins need to buckle down and get this restructuring done. I am sure they are lowballing him and trying to get the hometown discount that they always expect from thier own players. Samuels is no dummy, he sees what other top LT's are getting and he is not going to do a deal unless it's fair to him. Samuels has no reason not to do a deal if they are offering him the right amount of money. He has already said he is open to a restructuring so obviously the Skins are just not getting it done.

[Monksdown]

I would caution against saying that Samuels should be cut. We spend money on some really mediocre talent. I dont see Samuels as being mediocre, and he is an anchor on our line.

Look at this way. Imagine that we didnt have him, that we had Jim Molinaro starting last season. And that Samuels name comes up on the free agent wire this offseason. You tell me how much Dan Snyder would pay to get him, I guarantee you its atleast what we are paying him now, before we re-structure.

Simply put, Chris Samuels will be our starting left tackle next year. Thats an easy bet.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by celts32

Samuels gave up like 1 sack all year. He's one of the best in the game. His name was rarely called during a ame which means he was doing his job. And check the salary charts because LT's get some of the biggest contracts in football after QB's.

Many people on this board would cut him for cap reasons which is one thing, but you are the first to actually question his ability as a player.

The Redskins need to buckle down and get this restructuring done. I am sure they are lowballing him and trying to get the hometown discount that they always expect from thier own players. Samuels is no dummy, he sees what other top LT's are getting and he is not going to do a deal unless it's fair to him. Samuels has no reason not to do a deal if they are offering him the right amount of money. He has already said he is open to a restructuring so obviously the Skins are just not getting it done.

Wrong, every person who say's he's not worth the money is questioning his ability. We threw wr screen's all year how do give up a sack with that? Then you have his run blocking I hope you noticed all year when we needed tough yard's we didn't run in his direction alway's the right side, not that we succeeded but that's where we tried to run.

I have no doubt Samuels will be easily replaced, that's our biggest problem as a team to many overvalued player's with fat paycheck's.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by offiss

Wrong, every person who say's he's not worth the money is questioning his ability. We threw wr screen's all year how do give up a sack with that? Then you have his run blocking I hope you noticed all year when we needed tough yard's we didn't run in his direction alway's the right side, not that we succeeded but that's where we tried to run.

I have no doubt Samuels will be easily replaced, that's our biggest problem as a team to many overvalued player's with fat paycheck's.

Saying that you can't afford to carry a 9 million dollar cap figure and saying a player is not good or worth the money are completely different things. You could probably change the scenario and give any other player on the team the same 9 million dollar cap figure and they would be making the same point about releasing him. I didn't take any other post on this chain to mean that samuels was not a real good player. Everyone else who posted on this chain can correct me if I am wrong.

As to why the Redskins chose to run in certain directions I have no idea. I didn't notice any pattern of success running away from Samuels. I do know if the Redskins thought Samuels was an over rated or underperforming player they simply would have cut him already and not even tried to restructure. He has the worst cap contract on the team, the easy thing is to cut him and move on. Obviuosly they must think he's pretty good also.

[offiss]

Originally Posted by celts32

Saying that you can't afford to carry a 9 million dollar cap figure and saying a player is not good or worth the money are completely different things. You could probably change the scenario and give any other player on the team the same 9 million dollar cap figure and they would be making the same point about releasing him. I didn't take any other post on this chain to mean that samuels was not a real good player. Everyone else who posted on this chain can correct me if I am wrong.

As to why the Redskins chose to run in certain directions I have no idea. I didn't notice any pattern of success running away from Samuels. I do know if the Redskins thought Samuels was an over rated or underperforming player they simply would have cut him already and not even tried to restructure. He has the worst cap contract on the team, the easy thing is to cut him and move on. Obviuosly they must think he's pretty good also.

They obviously think Brunell is a pretty good player as well????????

[celts32]

Originally Posted by offiss

They obviously think Brunell is a pretty good player as well????????

You must be drinking from the lake out there in Hopatcong! Just kidding. Brunell is still around because Gibbs is not ready to throw in the towel yet on his boy. Also maybe they are not prepared yet to take the cap hit on that contract yet. I know the point your trying to make but Samuels and Brunell are completely different stories.

[offiss]

The problem is WE ARE NOT GETTING BY WITH SAMUEL'S! He is nothing special, end of story, Brandon Whiney who couldn't make our team the following year outplayed Samuels 2 season's ago so apparently these elite tackles don't grow on tree's because we don't have one. Samuel's production can be easily filled by either one of our youngsters from last draft that's how much I value Samuel's, I don't care if he want's to play for minimum wage I believe Samuel's and his lackadasical attitude is what is wrong with this team he's a player who get's by rather than look's to excel, I don't want him on this team, I will take a fighter with more heart and less physical talent anyday!

[celts32]

Originally Posted by offiss

The problem is WE ARE NOT GETTING BY WITH SAMUEL'S! He is nothing special, end of story, Brandon Whiney who couldn't make our team the following year outplayed Samuels 2 season's ago so apparently these elite tackles don't grow on tree's because we don't have one. Samuel's production can be easily filled by either one of our youngsters from last draft that's how much I value Samuel's, I don't care if he want's to play for minimum wage I believe Samuel's and his lackadasical attitude is what is wrong with this team he's a player who get's by rather than look's to excel, I don't want him on this team, I will take a fighter with more heart and less physical talent anyday!

We just simply don't agree on how good Samuels is. That's all there is to say I guess.