RUMOR: Trade talks between Browns (Brady Quinn) and Broncos (Brandon Marshall)

[mlmpetert]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Can we please stop using this overused cliche? Orton was not valued higher over Campbell, the Bears just made the Broncos a better offer. It had nothing to do with Orton being better than Campbell. I'm sure that if Snyder had given a better offer than Chicago, the trade would have happened.

Its been a while now, but i thought everything i remembering hearing was that the Redskins were offering essentially the same thing (two first and a third plus their QB) for Cutler. But Denver valued Orton higher then Campbell.

Where did you hear that the Redskins decided that the draft picks envolved where too high? I found this that seems to go along with what I remember with Orton valued over Campbell in the eyes of the Broncos, I forgot about the 3 way deal talk. But maybe something came out later with more details?


Cutler traded to Chicago | Washington Examiner

However, the deal involving the Browns unraveled, prompting Chicago to jump back in and offer a less-complicated deal, knowing the Broncos liked Bears quarterback Kyle Orton. The source said Denver’s preference of quarterbacks was Quinn and then Orton. They were not high on Campbell.

So, rather than do a three-way deal with Washington and another team, the Bears, according to an NFL source, called to offer Orton, two first-round draft picks, and a third-round pick in exchange for Cutler and a fifth-round pick.

“They had the compensation,” another NFL source said of the Redskins. “In the end they chose Orton over Campbell.”

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Its been a while now, but i thought everything i remembering hearing was that the Redskins were offering essentially the same thing (two first and a third plus their QB) for Cutler. But Denver valued Orton higher then Campbell.

Where did you hear that the Redskins decided that the draft picks evolved where too high? I found this that seems to go along with what I remember with Orton valued over Campbell in the eyes of the Broncos, I forgot about the 3 way deal talk. But maybe something came out later with more details?


Cutler traded to Chicago | Washington Examiner

However, the deal involving the Browns unraveled, prompting Chicago to jump back in and offer a less-complicated deal, knowing the Broncos liked Bears quarterback Kyle Orton. The source said Denver’s preference of quarterbacks was Quinn and then Orton. They were not high on Campbell.

So, rather than do a three-way deal with Washington and another team, the Bears, according to an NFL source, called to offer Orton, two first-round draft picks, and a third-round pick in exchange for Cutler and a fifth-round pick.

“They had the compensation,” another NFL source said of the Redskins. “In the end they chose Orton over Campbell.”

It was my understanding that the Bears had a better offer because Washington didn't want to give up a first rounder...

Chicago Bears acquire Jay Cutler from Denver Broncos for Kyle Orton, picks - ESPN

Even if Denver chose Campbell over Orton, it didn't have much to do about whether one QB was better than the other, and more of which QB McD felt fit his "system" better. Given what transpired in the 2009 season, it is hard to straight up determine which of these QBs is the better one, however, at that moment I think the best QB for Denver was Cutler...it's just that McD wanted his own players and dismantled the Denver offense.

[Lotus]

True. It would be hard for anyone, including the Denver FO, to value Orton over Campbell or vice versa head-up in any major, substantial way. It's not like we're talking about Peyton Manning vs. Quincy Carter here. To the extent that such a valuation would have occurred, it would have unraveled within the context of "best for OUR SYSTEM."

[HugeMonkFan]

Originally Posted by Lotus

True. It would be hard for anyone, including the Denver FO, to value Orton over Campbell or vice versa head-up in any major, substantial way. It's not like we're talking about Peyton Manning vs. Quincy Carter here. To the extent that such a valuation would have occurred, it would have unraveled within the context of "best for OUR SYSTEM."

quincy carter lol wow its been forever since i heard that name

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Dumb trade if it happens. Brandon Marshall at least can perform and give a team good production, while Quinn is probably going to end up a major bust. He was the most overhyped college football player of all time in my opinion. I know NBC has the TV deal with ND, but come on, ND sucked with Brady Quinn.

im still not on the quinn is a bust train yet...i want to see him with a decent line, with a decent running game, and some decent receivers all of which the browns have not had in awhile. i really dont think nd was that bad with him...i think he made more with less than Clausen has IMO

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by mlmpetert

Its been a while now, but i thought everything i remembering hearing was that the Redskins were offering essentially the same thing (two first and a third plus their QB) for Cutler. But Denver valued Orton higher then Campbell.

we were offering closer to a 1st, 3rd, and Campbell I believe

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

we were offering closer to a 1st, 3rd, and Campbell I believe

we never offered our first in 2009 - reportedly, that was something Cerrato was unwilling to do.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

we never offered our first in 2009 - reportedly, that was something Cerrato was unwilling to do.

ahh i was thinking that it was 2 firsts that we weren't willing to do

can't say I recall strongly though