Super Bowl XLIV Gameday Thread: Saints vs. Colts

[irish]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

many would argue if you take the rings out marino is a much better qb than montana

Absolutely, Marino is the best QB to ever play but he doesnt have any rings. Its not like this is golf where one man controls his own destiny, its a team game and maybe if Miami had a D he might have won a few titles.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by mlmdub130

many would argue if you take the rings out marino is a much better qb than montana

Take the rings out?!?! Let's take out TD passes while we're at it. And passing yards too.

Marino was awesome. Manning is awesome. No argument here.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

No they didn't. Brady didn't play for the 86 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. His Defenses were good, not great. AND Manning has had WAY MORE talent around him, yet he consistently under-achieves. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Brady's pathetic Receivers (future hall of famers, Troy Brown and Jabar Gaffney) dropping passes, last night would have been Manning's first Super Bowl. Manning is this generations Dan Marino. Brady is this generation's Joe Montana. Manning has 29TDs and 18INTs in the playoffs. AVERAGE!

Manning is Brady's bitch!

BS. There was no comparison between Indy's defense and NE's during those years. They might not have been the Bears or Ravens but they were pretty damn good. To say otherwise is just ignorant.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

BS. There was no comparison between Indy's defense and NE's during those years. They might not have been the Bears or Ravens but they were pretty damn good. To say otherwise is just ignorant.

And there's no comparison between Indy's offense and NEs during those years either. Nobody said the Pats had bad Defenses those years, but they aren't even in the discussion of all time great Defenses. Like you said, they were pretty damn good. Not great!

Before this year, Manning was 0-3 when his team was the #1 seed going into the playoffs. Compare his team's regular seasons to their playoff performances, and they chronically UNDER-ACHIEVE!

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

No they didn't. Brady didn't play for the 86 Bears or the 2000 Ravens. His Defenses were good, not great. AND Manning has had WAY MORE talent around him, yet he consistently under-achieves. As a matter of fact, if it weren't for Brady's pathetic Receivers (future hall of famers, Troy Brown and Jabar Gaffney) dropping passes, last night would have been Manning's first Super Bowl. Manning is this generations Dan Marino. Brady is this generation's Joe Montana. Manning has 29TDs and 18INTs in the playoffs. AVERAGE!

Manning is Brady's bitch!

With all due respect, particularly to the 2006 Patriots, the better Brady's offense has gotten around him, the MORE dominant Manning has been in the head to head series.

In the time frame between 2001-2005, New England's defense was the best overall defense in the time range. They may never have had a single year where they could be in the "greatest defense of all time" debate, but you'd have to put the early-decade Patriots in the same class as the great Titans defenses from earlier this decade and the Steelers defenses from more recent times, and the mid-decade Bears as the best defensive unit of the last ten years. No defense has been better longer since the Patriots.

And Brady hasn't won anything since his defenses were relevant. He's 2-2 in his last four playoff games, and 5-4 in his last nine. We can rip Manning for his overall playoff record being out of line with his regular season record, but he hasn't been a worse (or better) quarterback in the postseason than Brady. Saying otherwise is ignoring the evidence.

It's 2010 now. You need a new narrative.

[wilsowilso]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

We can rip Manning for his overall playoff record being out of line with his regular season record, but he hasn't been a worse (or better) quarterback in the postseason than Brady. Saying otherwise is ignoring the evidence.

I call "bullshit" on this post. Only because it's absurd to suggest that Manning is in Tom Brady's league in playoff performance.

He absolutely is not.

[DynamiteRave]

Man I hope the Saints finish this game off! Lets go Saints!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

Man I hope the Saints finish this game off! Lets go Saints!

Your wish was granted. By the way, what was your predicted final score?

[Dirtbag59]

Ha ha, Smootsmacks trivia bit was just brought to the attention of the entire nation/world.

[Ruhskins]

Wow, BS hit.

[Ruhskins]

I wonder what the rule would have been if the ball hits the goal post and one of the Saints intercepts it.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I wonder what the rule would have been if the ball hits the goal post and one of the Saints intercepts it.

Once it hits the goal post it's considered a dead ball

[mlmdub130]

wow!

[Ruhskins]

Game. Congrats to the Saints and Who Dat nation!

[GMScud]

An absolute masterpiece by Sean Payton. Congrats to the Saints and the city of New Orleans. Awesome stuff. I'm really happy for them, and thrilled a Manning was denied another Super Bowl.