Giants Release Pierce

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah and I believe the offer from the Skins was very much in line with what the Giants gave him, the Giants just gave him more $$ up front. So it's not like the Skins let him walk out the door without making an effort to keep him.

That's the way I remember it. We cut Trotter and gave Pierce a chance to start. He did very well and we made a good offer after the season but he went for the most money.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

But then he and Gibbs both later admitted publicly via interviews that they'd like to have that move back, that they should have tried to keep Antonio.

Then they got Fletcher It's ironic how Fletcher has seemingly outlasted Pierce, you know with Fletch being 3 years older.

[CultBrennan59]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Look for the Saints (Gregg Williams) or the Rams (Spags) to look at him.

hmm...Saints have Johnathan Vilma Pro Bowl young MLB, Rams have James Laurinitas young good developing MLB. I don't think he'll go to either of those places.

[MTK]

He's 32 and coming off a neck injury. I think it's also safe to say he's lost a step, perhaps a step he never had to begin with.

[Trample the Elderly]

We don't need him. They need to draft younger guys and bring in quality UDFAs and FAs to complete the youth movement of the team.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Why on earth would we want to bring back an injured 31 year old 4-3 middle linebacker when we're switching to a 3-4 system? It makes absolutely no sense and would be about as stupid and short-sighted as 90% of the stuff we did when Vinny and Danny were running the show.

I said it in the other threads discussing Pierce and i'll repeat myself here. No thanks. Not even for the vet minimum in an uncapped year.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I said it in the other threads discussing Pierce and i'll repeat myself here. No thanks. Not even for the vet minimum in an uncapped year.

Well that's just silly, because that's basically saying we have 6 linebackers on our roster who are better than Antonio Pierce. It's just not true.

With the cap no longer an issue, don't even bother talking about salary. It's a non-factor. He'd be an upgrade over what we have on the bench.

But he shouldn't unseat Fletcher, he would have to earn a starting spot if he even can, and he shouldn't be counted on for very much.

[WestCoastSkinsFan]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

With the cap no longer an issue, don't even bother talking about salary. It's a non-factor. He'd be an upgrade over what we have on the bench.

As long as we're heading towards uncapped seasons, this makes perfect sense to me.

[bedlamVR]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Well that's just silly, because that's basically saying we have 6 linebackers on our roster who are better than Antonio Pierce. It's just not true.

With the cap no longer an issue, don't even bother talking about salary. It's a non-factor. He'd be an upgrade over what we have on the bench.

But he shouldn't unseat Fletcher, he would have to earn a starting spot if he even can, and he shouldn't be counted on for very much.

Actually it is not that far of a reach to say we have 6 LBs on the roster better than Peirce, in terms of upside anyway . Peirce has lost a step but is a sure tackler .

If we moved to a 3-4 alignment then possibly you are right but then I think I would actually like to bring in a LB with a history at the position .

Staying with the 4-3 then we have Rak (should be a 3-4 LB) Fletcher and Rocky . I would not displace any of those for peirce . Then you have Blades Wilson and Bowen ....

Wilson has shown he has value in the 4-3 as a pass rush specialist and is developing as a OLB, all he did in his opportunities last season was make plays .

Blades has shown he is at least a valuable back up and has done more in his first three years than Peirce did in his first three years . The other aspect is that Blades will only get better with more playing time . Peirce is on the down slope .

Bowen... well I know very little about him but he backs up Rocky Mac and I really don't think Peirce would want to come back to back up WLB ...

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Why on earth would we want to bring back an injured 31 year old 4-3 middle linebacker when we're switching to a 3-4 system? It makes absolutely no sense and would be about as stupid and short-sighted as 90% of the stuff we did when Vinny and Danny were running the show.

I said it in the other threads discussing Pierce and i'll repeat myself here. No thanks. Not even for the vet minimum in an uncapped year.

Not really surprised the Giants released him, but would be surprised if he wound up coming back here. He's aging with injuries.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

I said it in the other threads discussing Pierce and i'll repeat myself here. No thanks. Not even for the vet minimum in an uncapped year.

At least people are starting to acknowledge the uncapped year when it comes to talking contracts. I've seen some people suggest the vet min like they're some type of stern negotiator (especially at ES). I swear people that suggest the vet min at this point for decent veterans should get the Gibbs head slap.



By the way BHA this wasn't a slight at you. It's obvious you brought up the vet mininimum to prove a point.

[DIE-NASTY]

Pierce wants to stay in the division and we need LB's...sounds good to me. Sign him to the vet min. with no signing bonus. If we pick up someone in the draft or FA who performs better, cut him.

[SkinzzFan]

No thanks. He's 32, had a pretty serious neck injury last year and seems to have lost a step. This would be a step back. We need an infusion of youth on both sides of the ball.

HAIL

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SkinzzFan

No thanks. He's 32, had a pretty serious neck injury last year and seems to have lost a step. This would be a step back. We need an infusion of youth on both sides of the ball.

HAIL

Not that I think we should pick him up, but how is picking up Pierce for the vet min any different than picking up some camp scrub?

[DIE-NASTY]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Not that I think we should pick him up, but how is picking up Pierce for the vet min any different than picking up some camp scrub?

I'd wager that AP is better than HB Blades even with the health issues.

As far as the vet. min, I'm not sure he'd get a big offer even in an uncapped year due to his questionable health issues. He said he wants to stay in the division (like B.Mitch) so why not give him a shot. If it works out, great. If it doesn't then we'll do what we gotta do.

We need to get younger, especially at LB and I don't think signing AP would hinder that draft strategy.