93 MEGA Mock Munch: Suh Consensus choice, Bradford leads to Redskins

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by redskins202

Yes ....he is maybe better than Bradford if anything. both are comparable I think the difference is Bradford more leadership and maturity and accuracy vs Clausen better mobility, quicker throw on and in the throw, great fade throws, HUGE STUDYING RAT.


Both are worth a 4th round pick. Okung is an overrated OT and I wouldn't pick him if my life depend on it, he gets killed against big bull rushing DE's.

Trent Cole-Justin Tuck- Dware would chew him up.

If anything Okung is becoming underrated at this point. The only overrated tackle that I see right now is Anthony Davis. As soon as I here that a guy is given a first round grade and it's based mainly on upside rather then production I see a HUGE red flag. Upside is why the Bills select Aaron Maybin instead of Brian Orakpo.

Upside is why Heyward-Bey gets selected ahead of Crabtree and why some team is going to be very disapointed when they select Jason Piere-Paul (DE USF) with his whooping 6 sacks but amazing edge speed.

If you can't produce at the collegiate level then you shouldn't be considered a first round pick thanks to measureables. Save the non-productive superfreaks for round 3 and beyond.

By the way pet peeve of mine but it's a 4th overall pick not a 4th round pick. Otherwise the NFL draft would be 256 rounds.

[redskins202]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

If anything Okung is becoming underrated at this point. The only overrated tackle that I see right now is Anthony Davis. As soon as I here that a guy is given a first round grade and it's based mainly on upside rather then production I see a HUGE red flag. Upside is why the Bills select Aaron Maybin instead of Brian Orakpo.

Upside is why Heyward-Bey gets selected ahead of Crabtree and why some team is going to be very disapointed when they select Jason Piere-Paul (DE USF) with his whooping 6 sacks but amazing edge speed.

If you can't produce at the collegiate level then you shouldn't be considered a first round pick thanks to measureables. Save the non-productive superfreaks for round 3 and beyond.

By the way pet peeve of mine but it's a 4th overall pick not a 4th round pick. Otherwise the NFL draft would be 256 rounds.

Okung would have never been taken or thought of this high in last years draft. Only reason why skins fans wan't Okung is to basically keep jason Candle and hope that it relives the 80's again. Thats not the case.

Okung isn't that good at all and he's been hyped up since our season was about to finish. Neither less we will draft Bradford or Clausen so I wouldn't worry about the OL. Im sure will find a way to build it.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by redskins202

Okung would have never been taken or thought of this high in last years draft. Only reason why skins fans wan't Okung is to basically keep jason Candle and hope that it relives the 80's again. Thats not the case.

Okung isn't that good at all and he's been hyped up since our season was about to finish. Neither less we will draft Bradford or Clausen so I wouldn't worry about the OL. Im sure will find a way to build it.

Keep in mind I definetely want to draft either Clausen or Bradford this year. Especially since next year is limited to the semi-productive genetic freaks in Mallet, Locker, and Prior, none of whom completed 60% of their passes this year which isn't exactly great for a coach that says he wants an acucrate QB.

Besides even if they do improve we're going to have to trade up to get them and personally I see none of them being better then Clausen or Bradford.

With all that said Okung is flat out dominant. If you don't believe me see for yourself. He's easily the most complete tackle prospect I've seen in a long time, maybe Jake Long was a little better but not by much.

[redskins202]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Keep in mind I definetely want to draft either Clausen or Bradford this year. Especially since next year is limited to the semi-productive genetic freaks in Mallet, Locker, and Prior, none of whom completed 60% of their passes this year which isn't exactly great for a coach that says he wants an acucrate QB.

Besides even if they do improve we're going to have to trade up to get them and personally I see none of them being better then Clausen or Bradford.

With all that said Okung is flat out dominant. If you don't believe me see for yourself. He's easily the most complete tackle prospect I've seen in a long time, maybe Jake Long was a little better but not by much.

I agree with your QB statement . But the thing about Okung is the reports said put him up against good big rushing DE's he'l get dominated. But the combine isn't to far away so will see.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by redskins202

I agree with your QB statement . But the thing about Okung is the reports said put him up against good big rushing DE's he'l get dominated. But the combine isn't to far away so will see.

What reports? I've seen quite a few and haven't seen anything that even remotely hinted at that.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by redskins202

I agree with your QB statement . But the thing about Okung is the reports said put him up against good big rushing DE's he'l get dominated. But the combine isn't to far away so will see.

I second that question, where have you seen this? Links please?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I second that question, where have you seen this? Links please?

This was the closest I could find

Seahawks Draft Blog: Russell Okung, OT, Oklahoma State

But I would add, as I believe I have mentioned here, that many scouts believe Okung lacks a certain "aggressive" quality-particularly when it comes to run blocking.