The Mid Round QB fallacy

[53Fan]

Well just to put it out there, Bill Polian blamed the o-line and ST's for losing the SB. And if Bradford or Clausen are Peyton Manning, draft one. Peyton is being touted as the best QB to ever play the game so they would have some pretty big shoes to fill. If Jake Locker would have come out, it's very possible he would be the #1 pick this year, not Bradford or Clausen. The argument seems to be if we don't get a QB at #4 this year, we won't be in position to get a top one next year. I would assume that's because the thought is our record is going to be better....even without a new QB. Schneed is right, not many teams won the same way the Redskins did. I just think the first round, especially this high, is much more hit or miss as far as Franchise QB's go compared to offensive linemen. Now I'm not talking about starters, we have a first round starter. The argument is for FRANCHISE QB's. Franchise QB's can take many picks and years to find, or you may hit one after the first round like Brady, Brees, Favre, or Warner. None of whom were selected in the first round. THOSE guys are true Franchise QB's and will be going to the HOF. It's a hard call. I really like Bradford, but I'm tired of trying to catch lightning in a bottle with FA's, UDFA's, guys off the street and 3rd round picks for our o-line. It may take time, but draft o-line high and you can have a dominant line.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Well just to put it out there, Bill Polian blamed the o-line and ST's for losing the SB. And if Bradford or Clausen are Peyton Manning, draft one. Peyton is being touted as the best QB to ever play the game so they would have some pretty big shoes to fill. If Jake Locker would have come out, it's very possible he would be the #1 pick this year, not Bradford or Clausen. The argument seems to be if we don't get a QB at #4 this year, we won't be in position to get a top one next year. I would assume that's because the thought is our record is going to be better....even without a new QB. Schneed is right, not many teams won the same way the Redskins did. I just think the first round, especially this high, is much more hit or miss as far as Franchise QB's go compared to offensive linemen. Now I'm not talking about starters, we have a first round starter. The argument is for FRANCHISE QB's. Franchise QB's can take many picks and years to find, or you may hit one after the first round like Brady, Brees, Favre, or Warner. None of whom were selected in the first round. THOSE guys are true Franchise QB's and will be going to the HOF. It's a hard call. I really like Bradford, but I'm tired of trying to catch lightning in a bottle with FA's, UDFA's, guys off the street and 3rd round picks for our o-line. It may take time, but draft o-line high and you can have a dominant line.

I can't argue with the logic too fervently, simply because LTs are incredibly important. Not quite as important as the QB, which is why I prefer going for the gusto and grabbing one if you think they're a star in the making. But getting a franchise LT is critical to future success and I can't say I'd be upset with a decision to go with Okung.

But it should be noted that Chris Samuels has not announced his retirement yet. He's older and will need replacing soon even if he doesn't retire, so maybe it doesn't change things all that much. But if before the draft he announces that he's still playing, that's all the more reason to go QB.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

I can't argue with the logic too fervently, simply because LTs are incredibly important. Not quite as important as the QB, which is why I prefer going for the gusto and grabbing one if you think they're a star in the making. But getting a franchise LT is critical to future success and I can't say I'd be upset with a decision to go with Okung.

But it should be noted that Chris Samuels has not announced his retirement yet. He's older and will need replacing soon even if he doesn't retire, so maybe it doesn't change things all that much. But if before the draft he announces that he's still playing, that's all the more reason to go QB.

As much as I like and respect Samuels, at really hope it doesn't come to this. Barring a miracle, Samuels is not going to be 100% especially with the whole danger of being paralyzed.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

As much as I like and respect Samuels, at really hope it doesn't come to this. Barring a miracle, Samuels is not going to be 100% especially with the whole danger of being paralyzed.

I agree, the guy hasn't even lived half his life yet. To risk it in the way he would most likely have to, it defies logic.