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[30gut]

Seriously, where you see the red flag?

Since when is having a quick release and a near text book throwing motion a bad thing?

I see a red flag with your post, lol

You realize that the comparison was of their releases?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Seriously, where you see the red flag?

Since when is having a quick release and a near text book throwing motion a bad thing?

I see a red flag with your post, lol

You realize that the comparison was of their releases?

Having a QB compared in the passing department to Michael Vick for me is the red flag. The quick release and throwing motion are fine. I would think of an analogy but I can't think of one right now.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Having a QB compared in the passing department to Michael Vick for me is the red flag. The quick release and throwing motion are fine. I would think of an analogy but I can't think of one right now.

Well its not the some generalized 'passing department' comparison that he's making, its a specific comparison of their releases.

His quick release reminds me a lot of Philadelphia Eagles' quarterback Michael Vick's.

You even contradict yourself in your post, you say the 'quick release and throwing motion are fine' but that is exactly what the comparison was about they both have quick releases.

Do you agree that Vick has a good release?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Do you agree that Vick has a good release?

Doesn't matter how quick it is when a little under half the time he misses the target. So no I don't believe Vick has a good release in a game situation. Now if you want to impress a scout with how much velocity you can put on a football then fine he has an amazing release, but it's like getting a rocket launcher without a targeting system.

THERE'S YOUR ANALOGY!! Only took half a month.

Anyway I will never respect a true mobile QB until they can put up respectable passing numbers. Most of the mobile QB's that have become successful almost always evolved into pocket passers; Steve Young, McNabb, McNair, heck even Cunningham eventually reached his peak when he became a pocket passer. In the end the fact remains, a football travels much faster down the field then any QB can run.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Doesn't matter how quick it is when a little under half the time he misses the target. So no I don't believe Vick has a good release in a game situation...........
THERE'S YOUR ANALOGY!! Only took half a month.

So your reply is to attempt to change the subject?

The comparison to Vick was about his release not his accuracy.

The fact that you can't admit that Vick has a good release imo tells a lot about your willingness or lack thereof to admit when wrong.

HTTR!

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

So your reply is to attempt to change the subject?

The comparison to Vick was about his release not his accuracy.

The fact that you can't admit that Vick has a good release imo tells a lot about your willingness or lack thereof to admit when wrong.

HTTR!

Release is directly related to accuracy. If you have a crappy release your accuracy suffers. Vick is inaccurate ergo he has a poor release. I believe you're the one trying to change the subject. And please don't speak of things you know little of. I have a whole book worth of post where I admit I'm wrong. All right maybe a childrens book but it's pretty reckless to suggest such a character flaw without evidence, or at the very least a limited scope.

Anyway to review a release determines velocity and accuracy. If one of those components is lacking then the quality of the release is reduced. I believe you're confusing a quick release with a good release.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Release is directly related to accuracy. If you have a crappy release your accuracy suffers. Vick is inaccurate ergo he has a poor release. I believe you're the one trying to change the subject. And please don't speak of things you know little of. I have a whole book worth of post where I admit I'm wrong. All right maybe a childrens book but it's pretty reckless to suggest such a character flaw without evidence, or at the very least a limited scope.

Anyway to review a release determines velocity and accuracy. If one of those components is lacking then the quality of the release is reduced. I believe you're confusing a quick release with a good release.

Your argument doesn't hold much water, imo.
By your argument if someone isn't accurate or lacks velocity then they must have a poor release?
That simple isn't logical.

The quality of a QBs release is indepent from accuracy or velocity.
You can have a horrible release and good accuracy or velocity or a great release and horrible accuracy or velocity the factors are independent.

*And btw i was refering to this point of contention we're having not about your general posting history of which i have no clue nor care.

Look it, if you don't think Vick has a good release cool beans bro.

Hey, whatever floats your boat.

HTTR!
Agree to disagree