The Mid Round QB fallacy

[Ruhskins]

Speaking of Campbell, here's a good take on the QB situation by Matt Williamson from Scouts, Inc.

Should the Redskins keep Jason Campbell?

For the most part, the answer is yes. I would tender him the highest offer with every intention of making him new coach Mike Shanahan's next quarterback project. But I would also listen to offers and would do diligent scouting on Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen in case an offer for Campbell was too good to pass up. I would prefer to add a franchise-caliber left tackle with that fourth overall draft pick, because I think the Redskins can get where they want to go with Campbell. The catch: They need to be patient with him and surround him with a vastly improved running game and offensive line. Campbell has gone through offensive system after offensive system at a remarkable rate, but he still shows glimpses of being a very solid NFL starting quarterback.

With Shanahan on board, Campbell finally would be fortunate enough to have some offensive stability in terms of the system, expectations and play-calling on a year-to-year basis. For once he wouldn't have to pick up a new language every offseason. Physically, Campbell has what it takes. He can move well enough to execute Shanahan's scheme, has a big strong arm to drive the ball down the field and is accurate enough. The tools are there, and he just had his best year as a starter. I contend that he could use a real confidence boost and some of the responsibility off his plate; he was simply asked to do way too much last year as nearly every aspect of the Redskins' offense crumbled around him. He was also sacked 43 times and was constantly under siege. But the beauty of sticking with Campbell is that the Redskins could then use the resources on building a quick zone-blocking offensive line and finding a ball carrier they can trust. Shanahan does have an impressive history of getting first-round production from mid-round running backs. I can live with the receiving corps that is in place and the defense.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Speaking of Campbell, here's a good take on the QB situation by Matt Williamson from Scouts, Inc.

Should the Redskins keep Jason Campbell?

For the most part, the answer is yes. I would tender him the highest offer with every intention of making him new coach Mike Shanahan's next quarterback project. But I would also listen to offers and would do diligent scouting on Sam Bradford and Jimmy Clausen in case an offer for Campbell was too good to pass up. I would prefer to add a franchise-caliber left tackle with that fourth overall draft pick, because I think the Redskins can get where they want to go with Campbell. The catch: They need to be patient with him and surround him with a vastly improved running game and offensive line. Campbell has gone through offensive system after offensive system at a remarkable rate, but he still shows glimpses of being a very solid NFL starting quarterback.

With Shanahan on board, Campbell finally would be fortunate enough to have some offensive stability in terms of the system, expectations and play-calling on a year-to-year basis. For once he wouldn't have to pick up a new language every offseason. Physically, Campbell has what it takes. He can move well enough to execute Shanahan's scheme, has a big strong arm to drive the ball down the field and is accurate enough. The tools are there, and he just had his best year as a starter. I contend that he could use a real confidence boost and some of the responsibility off his plate; he was simply asked to do way too much last year as nearly every aspect of the Redskins' offense crumbled around him. He was also sacked 43 times and was constantly under siege. But the beauty of sticking with Campbell is that the Redskins could then use the resources on building a quick zone-blocking offensive line and finding a ball carrier they can trust. Shanahan does have an impressive history of getting first-round production from mid-round running backs. I can live with the receiving corps that is in place and the defense.

If Campbell wants to truly take the next step he'll need to do two things

1. Work on his deep ball accuracy: Despite his strong arm Jason is horrible when it comes to throwing the deep ball.

2. Reading defenses better: From what I've seen and heard Jason is only average in this category. If he wants to stay around he'll need to do a better job of looking off safeties and not staring down receivers as well as making proper pre-snap reads.

It might only be two bullet points but they're easily two of the most important aspects of being an NFL QB.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

If Campbell wants to truly take the next step he'll need to do two things

1. Work on his deep ball accuracy: Despite his strong arm Jason is horrible when it comes to throwing the deep ball.

Agreed that he needs to improve on the deep ball.

He needs to work on his deep ball accuracy on the go route/9 route.

There are some factors from a coaching stand point that will help JC improve also:

-better pass protection
o will help because he'll be more confident in the pocket
o there will be more chances to throw deep

-the receivers maintaining a more consistent 5 yard cushion from the sideline

-better running game to set-up play action

2. Reading defenses better: From what I've seen and heard Jason is only average in this category. If he wants to stay around he'll need to do a better job of looking off safeties and not staring down receivers as well as making proper pre-snap reads.

Gameplan and coaching will help him a great deal in this category.

Being able to dictate the coverages any QB faces greatly improves there success; and historically this something that Mike Shanahan has done in the past and i'm sure Mike has passed some of his tips along to his Kyle.

Further there will be huge difference in our current coaching staff's level of knowledge when it some to predicting and attack defenses then the previous on the job training offensive staff displayed.

There is no doubt in my mind that Kyle/LeFleur and Mike S. will have JC better prepared to read and attack any defenses this year.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 30gut

Agreed that he needs to improve on the deep ball.

He needs to work on his deep ball accuracy on the go route/9 route.

There are some factors from a coaching stand point that will help JC improve also:

-better pass protection
o will help because he'll be more confident in the pocket
o there will be more chances to throw deep

-the receivers maintaining a more consistent 5 yard cushion from the sideline

-better running game to set-up play action



Gameplan and coaching will help him a great deal in this category.

Being able to dictate the coverages any QB faces greatly improves there success; and historically this something that Mike Shanahan has done in the past and i'm sure Mike has passed some of his tips along to his Kyle.

Further there will be huge difference in our current coaching staff's level of knowledge when it some to predicting and attack defenses then the previous on the job training offensive staff displayed.

There is no doubt in my mind that Kyle/LeFleur and Mike S. will have JC better prepared to read and attack any defenses this year.

Very good points.

[redskins202]

I like Jevon Snead as my 3rd choice of a QB if we don't pick up Bradford or Clausen. Snead arm is a good good canon and plays sorta like a Bret Favre in college( just alot less accurate).

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

If Campbell wants to truly take the next step he'll need to do two things

1. Work on his deep ball accuracy: Despite his strong arm Jason is horrible when it comes to throwing the deep ball.

2. Reading defenses better: From what I've seen and heard Jason is only average in this category. If he wants to stay around he'll need to do a better job of looking off safeties and not staring down receivers as well as making proper pre-snap reads.

It might only be two bullet points but they're easily two of the most important aspects of being an NFL QB.

Agreed; they talk about his long ball but it's never where it needs to be. He's even missed several with Moss or whoever nearly wide open.

The reading def needs to be improved, I'll defend him to an extent saying that he might only have time to make his basic reads before he has to get rid of the ball, however with a little more time he might get some extra looks in. He needs to compensate by having better pocket presence or having the pocket move (which obviously would be coming from above his call).