Colt Brennan vs Rookie class

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

That's BS. Shanahan found success with only one quarterback, Elway. That came after he was able to reduce the amount of passes Elway had to attempt (i.e. reverse the gunslinger tendencies), through a strong running game.

I have watched all I need to of CB and Bradford. Both are limp-armed, short, spread offense passers with average release times; who were successful in systems where their receivers were 4-5 yards open. That game doesn't fly in the NFL, which is why Colt is a pine rider and always will be. Deal.

I'm not saying JC is the long-term solution, but he's not the team's worst problem right now and Bradford is nowhere even close to being worth the 4th pick. He isn't worth a first round pick, much less 4th overall.

Your Bradford analysis is off base. Bradford is 6-4 with well above average release and arm strength. There are questions about his transition to a pro style offense, but he has the physical tools to be an elite NFL QB which is why he will be drafted in the top 10 in April. To toss him in a barrel with Colt Brennan who was barely even drafted is not even close to acurate.

[redskins202]

Originally Posted by celts32

Your Bradford analysis is off base. Bradford is 6-4 with well above average release and arm strength. There are questions about his transition to a pro style offense, but he has the physical tools to be an elite NFL QB which is why he will be drafted in the top 10 in April. To toss him in a barrel with Colt Brennan who was barely even drafted is not even close to acurate.

Agreed. Sam Bradford is a good QB for Shanahan to have even Jimmy Clausen. I liked Colt Brennan but he doesn't have the mechanics in the throwing motion to do good.

Sam Bradford is very accurate and has been compared to almost a Peyton Manning accuracy . Jimmy Clausen has the quickest sharpest throws. Both can be good. Candle is not good.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by redskins202

Agreed. Sam Bradford is a good QB for Shanahan to have even Jimmy Clausen. I liked Colt Brennan but he doesn't have the mechanics in the throwing motion to do good.

Steve Young

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Steve Young

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[Slingin Sammy 33]

Brennan was outperformed by a 5'10", UDFA last training camp and in the pre-season. Campbell will be here this year, we need a veteran back-up (Collins, Garcia, etc.) and we will draft a QB or bring in another UDFA. Brennan won't make the roster.....then we can finally give the Cult their Nikes and send them off to the Hale-Bop comet.

I've said it numerous times before and I'll say it again, Colt Brennan = Timmy Chang.

[Mc2guy]

Originally Posted by celts32

Your Bradford analysis is off base. Bradford is 6-4 with well above average release and arm strength. There are questions about his transition to a pro style offense, but he has the physical tools to be an elite NFL QB which is why he will be drafted in the top 10 in April. To toss him in a barrel with Colt Brennan who was barely even drafted is not even close to acurate.

Bradford is taller, I'll concede that, but his arm is not that strong and he's coming off season ending shoulder surgery.

I went back and read multiple scouting reports on Bradford and the best I could find on his arm was "adequate" or "slightly above average", with other reports listing him as below average arm strength.

OK, so I'll give you he's a light year ahead of Brennan, but he played out of the shotgun in a spread offense and based on the tape I saw, is not an elite QB, and to waste a 4th on a project is not worth the investment in my opinion. Could he become a middling quality player (kind of like Campbell), probably, but I don't believe, after watching many of his games, that he will ever be elite. If you are going to spend a top ten pick on a QB, he better be elite.

We have a middle of the road QB...better to built the rest of the line up, take a shot on a 3rd rounder to compete with JC, and see what is available (IF THEY ARE EVEN PLAYING FOOTBALL IN 2012), the following year.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Mc2guy

Bradford is taller, I'll concede that, but his arm is not that strong and he's coming off season ending shoulder surgery.

I went back and read multiple scouting reports on Bradford and the best I could find on his arm was "adequate" or "slightly above average", with other reports listing him as below average arm strength.

OK, so I'll give you he's a light year ahead of Brennan, but he played out of the shotgun in a spread offense and based on the tape I saw, is not an elite QB, and to waste a 4th on a project is not worth the investment in my opinion. Could he become a middling quality player (kind of like Campbell), probably, but I don't believe, after watching many of his games, that he will ever be elite. If you are going to spend a top ten pick on a QB, he better be elite.

We have a middle of the road QB...better to built the rest of the line up, take a shot on a 3rd rounder to compete with JC, and see what is available (IF THEY ARE EVEN PLAYING FOOTBALL IN 2012), the following year.

I am not trying to convince you that Bradford should be the skins pick or that he will be a great QB. All I am saying is that he is not projected as a #1 draft pick for nothing. The guy is an elite prospect in the eyes of most NFL scouts. Above average arm, quick release, good decision maker...those are the types of things i read. Post a link to the scouting report that says he has a below average arm if you can. I am not saying your wrong but everything i read and heard was that his arm was at least above average.