ESPN: Clayton Expects Skins to Tender Campbell for a 1st and 3rd

[WaldSkins]

Im more interested to find out what Carlos Rogers tender is

[gully]

According to warpaths salary figures salary last year was 2.858 Million.

The tender for a 1st and a 3rd pick level is 3.268 Million.

RFAs can be tendered at the amount specified or 110 percent of last years salary ($3.144M) whichever is greater.

So Clayton is merely saying that Campbell will get the only RFA tender possible. The other alternatives would be no tender, allowing him to walk, or the franchise or transition tags, both of which would be much more expensive.

And the skins are free to accept less in the way of draft pick compensation if they choose.

[Bigreds77]

Taking skilled players when we need OL. Is Vinny still in control?

[Son Of Man]

Two words....Matt Cassel.

[#56fanatic]

I just dont understand this crap. JC would be a better than average QB in this league with an offensive line that could block. If you look at statistics that were put out, when Jason had average time to deliver the ball he was as good as anyone in the league. And that is vertually with NO running game to speak of, and really no WR that could get open on a regular basis, and our best threat hurt (cooley). This organization is so damn bent on getting Campbell out of Washington, its blinded itself. If they built this team correctly by getting the most important pieces in place, then we wouldn't even be looking for a QB, or an entirely built offensive line. We could be drafting a RB(which in my opinion is something we need as much as anything), or a top corner to put beside Hall, or a freaking FS so Landry can stop getting burnt in coverage.

I wish they would just do the right thing and draft TWO offensive lineman, one in the 1st and one in the second. that is two starting offensive lineman that would be centerpieces for years to come. Give Campbell a chance, hell give Colt a chance to play behind someone that can block. This may give us another of dealing with Portis, (personally I hope he is gone) or we could even get a guy in the 4th, or move up to the 3rd to get a RB. I just feel the furthest thing we need to draft is a QB right now.

this would KILL the kids confidence if he is literally beat to hell behind an horrible o-line, just like poor Campbell was this year and Ramsey was a few years back.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just dont understand this crap. JC would be a better than average QB in this league with an offensive line that could block. If you look at statistics that were put out, when Jason had average time to deliver the ball he was as good as anyone in the league. And that is vertually with NO running game to speak of, and really no WR that could get open on a regular basis, and our best threat hurt (cooley). This organization is so damn bent on getting Campbell out of Washington, its blinded itself. If they built this team correctly by getting the most important pieces in place, then we wouldn't even be looking for a QB, or an entirely built offensive line. We could be drafting a RB(which in my opinion is something we need as much as anything), or a top corner to put beside Hall, or a freaking FS so Landry can stop getting burnt in coverage.

I wish they would just do the right thing and draft TWO offensive lineman, one in the 1st and one in the second. that is two starting offensive lineman that would be centerpieces for years to come. Give Campbell a chance, hell give Colt a chance to play behind someone that can block. This may give us another of dealing with Portis, (personally I hope he is gone) or we could even get a guy in the 4th, or move up to the 3rd to get a RB. I just feel the furthest thing we need to draft is a QB right now.

this would KILL the kids confidence if he is literally beat to hell behind an horrible o-line, just like poor Campbell was this year and Ramsey was a few years back.

If Campbell could put up the kind of numbers he did with virtually no running game, (to speak of) no line to block for him, and a coaching staff that had no idea what the hell they were doing, I'd sure like to see what he could do with all the above.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

If Campbell could put up the kind of numbers he did with virtually no running game, (to speak of) no line to block for him, and a coaching staff that had no idea what the hell they were doing, I'd sure like to see what he could do with all the above.

I don't understand how fans of our team can so easily look past all the other failing facets of the team and focus their blame on a QB who was ranked 15th in the league.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I don't understand how fans of our team can so easily look past all the other failing facets of the team and focus their blame on a QB who was ranked 15th in the league.

I'm not looking past it, nor do I blame Campbell, but if you can upgrade your QB you likely should. Nearly every team looks at doing it, no big deal.

If you're not sure of what you'll get, hold out for another year or so; if you think Clausen is the real deal, get him. The kid did great in a pro-style offense without a good line, running game, etc. Sure it's college, but he didn't need the shotgun/spread to have a good year with low INTs, etc.

Either way, Campbell should have a chance to prove himself this year.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I'm not looking past it, nor do I blame Campbell, but if you can upgrade your QB you likely should. Nearly every team looks at doing it, no big deal.

If you're not sure of what you'll get, hold out for another year or so; if you think Clausen is the real deal, get him. The kid did great in a pro-style offense without a good line, running game, etc. Sure it's college, but he didn't need the shotgun/spread to have a good year with low INTs, etc.

Either way, Campbell should have a chance to prove himself this year.

Many talent evaluators do not project Clausen to be a first round talent. Now don't blame me for saying it, I'm just repeating the so called experts.

[skins89moss]

I just read everyone's post on the topic and I still would rather keep Jason than draft any QB in the 1st round. We were 4-12 in 2009 and JC was not the sole reason. We had to many injuries on the O-Line to list. We had no running game this year and a soft defense that got exposed as the season went on. We need to fix our horrible O-Line with the 1st and 2nd rd picks. These picks have to start from day 1. If we pick a QB than we know he will not be ready to play from day 1. If a rookie QB is starting than get ready for another 4-12 season with this horrible O-Line.

[SmootSmack]

It's pretty common for the QB to either get too much blame or too much credit. But it seems like for many here, Campbell is completely absolved of any responsibility. Yes he had poor protection but that's too often being used as a crutch (I believe) for many of the poor decisions he made. It's as if people think no QB was ever a difference maker, that all that matters is the line in front of him.

[Son Of Man]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

It's pretty common for the QB to either get too much blame or too much credit. But it seems like for many here, Campbell is completely absolved of any responsibility. Yes he had poor protection but that's too often being used as a crutch (I believe) for many of the poor decisions he made. It's as if people think no QB was ever a difference maker, that all that matters is the line in front of him.

Thank you! Ben Rothlisberger and Aaron Rogers seem to be able to elevate their play with sub-par lines...why do we excuse JC's mediocrity?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Thank you! Ben Rothlisberger and Aaron Rogers seem to be able to elevate their play with sub-par lines...why do we excuse JC's mediocrity?

Yep, and good QBs make their O lines look better. Matt Cassell was sacked relentlessly behind the same line Brady camps out behind all the time. He's a threat to beat you deep, Cassell was not. AND the O line was fine for the first 4-5 games last year. BUT, this has been re-hashed a zillion times.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

Yep, and good QBs make their O lines look better. Matt Cassell was sacked relentlessly behind the same line Brady camps out behind all the time. He's a threat to beat you deep, Cassell was not. AND the O line was fine for the first 4-5 games last year. BUT, this has been re-hashed a zillion times.

You keep saying this, but I do not think any line that allows as much pressure as Detroit got and as Tampa Bay got to be called "fine." If that performance was fine, then I'm fine with 4-12. Because that, to me, is overachieving.

The line was toast as soon as the first guy (Thomas) went down. All the Samuels injury did was allow reality to set in.

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You keep saying this, but I do not think any line that allows as much pressure as Detroit got and as Tampa Bay got to be called "fine." If that performance was fine, then I'm fine with 4-12. Because that, to me, is overachieving.

The line was toast as soon as the first guy (Thomas) went down. All the Samuels injury did was allow reality to set in.

And I'll keep saying it. We must have been watching different games. I remember checking his sack totals after 4 games and he was in the bottom third of all starting QBs. The O line wasn't a mess until AFTER Samuels and Randy Thomas went down, AND then Campbell actually played better. He was absolutely NOT running for his life against the likes of the Lions, Bucs, Rams and friggin Chefs. BUT who's to say it wasn't Zorn's fault. The O definitely seemed to have more life after Sherm started calling plays.

I'm just saying I don't think you can blame the ineptness of the Offense early in the season against arguably some of the worst Defenses of all time on the O line. For the record, I actually think Campbell showed a lot during the second half of the season and am totally comfortable with him being the starter. I just don't think drafting a QB with the first pick should be off the table by any means. I believe the O line can still be addressed if they draft a QB with the 4th pick.