The Mid Round QB fallacy

[30gut]

Originally Posted by PHazard

. FOR THE LOVE OF EVERYTHING HOLY, MARY MOTHER OF JESUS, PLEASE DO NOT LET US DRAFT COLT MCCOY!

What do you have against McCoy?
Especially in the 2nd round?
Any knock on McCoy is likely shared with Bradford?

I think McCoy has the tools to be a fine NFL QB.
He reminds me of someone that Shanahan has coached before.
And its a comparison i'm embarrassed to make.

But on completely anecdotal note if anyone listens to Mike&Mike?
Does anyone recall Big Mike mention in passing how he ran into Mike Shanahan at an ND game earlier this year?

[PHazard]

Originally Posted by 30gut

What do you have against McCoy?
Especially in the 2nd round?
Any knock on McCoy is likely shared with Bradford?

I think McCoy has the tools to be a fine NFL QB.
He reminds me of someone that Shanahan has coached before.
And its a comparison i'm embarrassed to make.

But on completely anecdotal note if anyone listens to Mike&Mike?
Does anyone recall Big Mike mention in passing how he ran into Mike Shanahan at an ND game earlier this year?

Just after watching so much film on him there is nothing that really jumps out at me. He looks like nothing more than a kicker or a punter to me ( i know thats not a technical evaluation but just based on sight.) He is one of the weaker armed QB's in the whole draft. Whats he like 190-200 lbs? Kinda small as far as NFL passers go. He had a decent year statistically last year but having Campbell, we've all been shown that stats can lie. He had a much worse year this year. I know he is good at winning but everytime i saw him play a team that was more on Texas's level, he struggled. I just see more potential in the LeFevour's, Pike's, Kafka's of the mid round world than i do with him. Just absolutely NOTHING jumps out at me about him that says, hey we might have some potential here.

But i digress.....if we get him, ill hafta find a way to support him :frusty:

[30gut]

Originally Posted by PHazard

Just after watching so much film on him there is nothing that really jumps out at me.

What 'film' did you watch?
Athletiscim and quick feet didn't jump out to you?

He is one of the weaker armed QB's in the whole draft. Whats he like 190-200 lbs? Kinda small as far as NFL passers go.

Huh? Weaker arm's in the draft? Care to support such a bold claim with anything?
While he's not big he's 6'2 which is a typical height for a pro QB and he's 212 and has a solid build.

He had a decent year statistically last year but having Campbell, we've all been shown that stats can lie.

So now your questioning his stats, have you seen his stats? You realize he's been a Heisman Trophy candidate?

I know he is good at winning but everytime i saw him play a team that was more on Texas's level, he struggled.

Winning is kinda something that coaches like, lol and btw he's won a lot check his the records *hint* most wins in college football.

I just see more potential in the LeFevour's, Pike's, Kafka's of the mid round world than i do with him.

You realize that he's rated much higher then the guys you mentioned and Paul Burmeister thinks he could gain on Claussen.

Just absolutely NOTHING jumps out at me about him that says, hey we might have some potential here.

What jumps out about the QBs that you mentioned?

-Me thinks you haven't watched him play much and are giving a completely unsupported opinion.

Here's some Texas short cuts i think if you watch with an open mind you'll have a different opinion of McCoy

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