The Mid Round QB fallacy

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by 30gut

But, saying that there are question is quite different from saying he has one of the weakest arms in the draft.

Agreed. McCoy is certainly not the weakest arm in the draft.

Although i visit some of the site you mentioned i only do so because they have links and data compiled in one place. But a lot of those guys have no more scouting credentials then you or I.

And McGuire at Walters gives some of the least professional 'scouting' reports that i've seen.

Same here. I agree with McGuire's Clausen breakdowns and the reasoning behind it, but he does go a bit overboard on some of the negative comments on certain players.

I feel like we're side-tracking this thread into a QB discussion but...when i was snowed in last week i looked at alot of youtube cuts ups and downloaded some games of the Bradford, Claussen and McCoy.

And i don't see a huge difference in their skillsets.

You've seen my opinions of Clausen so I won't rehash, but I agree with you on Bradford vs. McCoy. Bradford has more prototypical NFL size and a stronger arm, but their skillsets are similar otherwise.

I broke down the Texas Vs UCF game and McCoy makes some of those NFL throws that people are looking for and if you look at the other game shorts you'll see he makes a few of those 'stick' throws every game.

Good stuff on the breakdown, I had to mute the speaker while watching the clip....the background music was killing me. LOL

The one thing I notice about McCoy (and clips of Bradford also) is that they are often throwing to wide open receivers, that won't happen at the next level near as often

[30gut]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Same here. I agree with McGuire's Clausen breakdowns and the reasoning behind it, but he does go a bit overboard on some of the negative comments on certain players.

I think he did a good job with his Clausen breakdown, except he refered to the offense as WCO as far as i know Weis comes from the Parcells tree and most of those guys run the Erdhart-Perkins.

The one thing I notice about McCoy (and clips of Bradford also) is that they are often throwing to wide open receivers, that won't happen at the next level near as often

Yeah, Bradford and McCoy were playing 'pitch and catch' on most of their throws. (Which makes me wonder about Golden Tate for such a highly touted WR he doesn't seem to get that much seperation especially compared to a dude like Shipley.)

*I wish they were all throwing at the combine it would answer so many question to see them throw in the same settings. But, i think McCoy is gonna throw.

Good stuff on the breakdown, I had to mute the speaker while watching the clip....the background music was killing me. LOL

Yeah, that music was weird classical-rock mix horrible...
I should have marked the passes i thought were a good indication of 'NFL' ability: 6 (2:01), 7 (2:18), 8 (2:25), 9 (3:25), 11 (4:35), 13 (5:14), 15 (6:37)

[Dirtbag59]

This is for the "weak QB class people." Per John Clayton:

Overall, it's an interesting class of quarterbacks. As many as nine could go in the first four rounds. Jevan Snead of Mississippi could use a good throwing performance to change perceptions that he made a mistake by turning pro too early. Accuracy was a problem in his final season in college.