Bradford/Clausen now split among Mock Drafts

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

When do we get the elite QB to get us to a SB contention level? If we get the OL this draft and our D performs in the top half of the league, we're a .500 team. It's extremely unlikey an elite QB hits FA. If we're at .500 we're picking in the 14-18 range, no elite QB prospects there for 2011. So do we continue to have average QB play and try to build a dominant D and run game (Ravens/Jets/2000 Ravens/2002 Bucs)? How do we get past .500 to SB contention level without an elite QB?

So you're banking on the fact that Bradford is the sure thing? Even if he's elite, but our offensive line sucks because all we got were old UFAs and low-round picks to build the worst offensive line from 2009, what's not to say that Bradford doesn't become the next David Carr? We're back to square one with the same QB and offensive line problems. If you want your elite QB so bad, in 2011, after building the offensive line with Okung or Davis, you can trade up from the mid-first round to get your elite QB. Hell,you can probably even play him right away the way Baltimore and the Jets have done with their rookie QBs.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you're banking on the fact that Bradford is the sure thing? Even if he's elite, but our offensive line sucks because all we got were old UFAs and low-round picks to build the worst offensive line from 2009, what's not to say that Bradford doesn't become the next David Carr? We're back to square one with the same QB and offensive line problems. If you want your elite QB so bad, in 2011, after building the offensive line with Okung or Davis, you can trade up from the mid-first round to get your elite QB. Hell,you can probably even play him right away the way Baltimore and the Jets have done with their rookie QBs.

I first want to say that I am not partisan here and would be happy with either an OT or a QB at #4.

But I think it would be easier in 2011 to trade up to get a stud tackle than it would be to trade up to get an elite QB. Elite QB's typically go in the top 5 or maybe top 10 picks, whereas very good tackles can be found all over the first round.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

So you're banking on the fact that Bradford is the sure thing? Even if he's elite, but our offensive line sucks because all we got were old UFAs and low-round picks to build the worst offensive line from 2009, what's not to say that Bradford doesn't become the next David Carr? We're back to square one with the same QB and offensive line problems. If you want your elite QB so bad, in 2011, after building the offensive line with Okung or Davis, you can trade up from the mid-first round to get your elite QB. Hell,you can probably even play him right away the way Baltimore and the Jets have done with their rookie QBs.

I'm not banking on Bradford. I'm banking on Clausen. He's the only QB I would use the #4 pick on. That's just me, I have no idea how Shanahan/Allen have Bradford/Clausen rated.

Our OL isn't going to be in the shambles it was last year. I think we can agree Dock is fine. Rabach is serviceable but needs to be replaced soon. Between Levi Jones and Heyer we can produce a serviceable RT. At the top of the second we may find Brown from USC, Campbell from UMD, Asamoah, or Pouncey from UF. UFAs Bridges, Pashos can provide depth at T. I'm not ready to give up on Rinehart and/or E. Williams developing at G. Better scheme, better playcalling will also help the OL.

The David Carr thing doesn't work, we're not an expansion team and we have excellent offensive minds at HC & OC. Didn't Carr run a spread at Fresno St.?

Who are the elite QBs for 2011, Locker, maybe Luck. Now way I'm giving up what it would cost in picks/players to get into the top 5 to get one of those two, even if they are elite. We have the pick to get an elite QB now, we need to get it done if Clausen is there.