Interesting Comments from Carlos Rogers

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I don't get that.. That's like saying that incompletions for a QB or negative yardage runs for a RB or a DT that doesn't tackle people who run to his left 'don't bother me'. That's a HUGE part of his job!! Getting turnovers is a major factor in wins and losses. Just being in position isn't good enough, if you are there you have to make the play.

The point is there aren't much of opportunities for us to replace Rogers if we decide to let him go.. Rogers proved he can shut down #1 receivers (most of times - the only time I remember he couldn't was the Broncos game against Marshall).. If there's opportunity of having a corner that can cover excellent and makes play that is presented to us then go for it.. But the only opportunity is Dunta Robinson, for some reason, I just don't see us going after him..

The main point of cornerback is not to let receivers catch balls and score touchdowns..

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

The point is there aren't much of opportunities for us to replace Rogers if we decide to let him go.. Rogers proved he can shut down #1 receivers (most of times - the only time I remember he couldn't was the Broncos game against Marshall).. If there's opportunity of having a corner that can cover excellent and makes play that is presented to us then go for it.. But the only opportunity is Dunta Robinson, for some reason, I just don't see us going after him..

The main point of cornerback is not to let receivers catch balls and score touchdowns..

We will agree to disagree on Rogers and I am admittedly biased because I don't really care for him but he's done nothing that has deemed himself, in my eyes, as irreplaceable with pretty much any other mid level starting CB. As I stated earlier, of the 64 starting CB in the league I don't think he's in the top 30 or 40.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

We will agree to disagree on Rogers and I am admittedly biased because I don't really care for him but he's done nothing that has deemed himself, in my eyes, as irreplaceable with pretty much any other mid level starting CB. As I stated earlier, of the 64 starting CB in the league I don't think he's in the top 30 or 40.

if he's starting 64 and not in the top 40 then I'd love to hear your analysis on the ones in the bottom 24

not that you could name them

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

if he's starting 64 and not in the top 40 then I'd love to hear your analysis on the ones in the bottom 24

not that you could name them

You're right, I couldn't name them I'm sure but my analysis is they are serviceable CB but lack a certain characteristic (hands, elite speed, loose hips) of elite-outstanding CB, teams will tend to throw to their side more than the other and they are beaten for TD more frequently than their opposite CB. I think we can all agree that Rogers fits comfortably into that criteria.

Look, it's not an insult to call someone a bonafide starter in the NFL, it's just that I consider Rogers on the middle-lower end of starting CB in the league.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

You're right, I couldn't name them I'm sure but my analysis is they are serviceable CB but lack a certain characteristic (hands, elite speed, loose hips) of elite-outstanding CB, teams will tend to throw to their side more than the other and they are beaten for TD more frequently than their opposite CB. I think we can all agree that Rogers fits comfortably into that criteria.

Look, it's not an insult to call someone a bonafide starter in the NFL, it's just that I consider Rogers on the middle-lower end of starting CB in the league.

I'd put him in the top 15-20 CBs probably, he does definitely have plenty of room to improve. Maybe one of the unofficial stats guys can help us out with some numbers.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

I'd put him in the top 15-20 CBs probably, he does definitely have plenty of room to improve. Maybe one of the unofficial stats guys can help us out with some numbers.

That's really high praise for someone that's been benched at some point 2 of the last 3 seasons and has 6 INT in 5 years.

Whose class would you put him in? The Revis-Woodson class? The Samuel-Winfield class? Who would you consider his peers in the 15-20 range?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

That's really high praise for someone that's been benched at some point 2 of the last 3 seasons and has 6 INT in 5 years.

Whose class would you put him in? The Revis-Woodson class? The Samuel-Winfield class? Who would you consider his peers in the 15-20 range?

more like the cromartie-robinson class, which I guess could take him out of the 15-20 range

last year singled out I probably wouldn't put him in top 20, but still starting quality.. before that maybe in the al harris, sheldon brown type range