Schefter: "There's no way" the Rams won't pick Sam Bradford at No. 1

[DIE-NASTY]

Originally Posted by mooby

Anybody thought about Bradford's possible chemistry with Malcolm Kelly? I'm not certain of this but I believe Bradford was a freshman the year before Kelly went pro. If they had a nice chemistry on the field that could mean good things for both Bradford if we end up picking him and for Kelly. Even though I like Campbell I definitely wouldn't mind taking Bradford.

kelly is never healthy. He's only made one play in two years that I can recollect.

[SmootSmack]

Reading some of these posts just brings painful reminders of 2003. We had a strong offensive line back then (couple of 1st rounders, couple of 3rd rounders, Randy Thomas who I think was a 2nd rounder) yet we couldn't win with Shane Matthews and Danny Wuerfful...which is ridiculous because with that line those guys should have been franchise QBs.

[irish]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Reading some of these posts just brings painful reminders of 2003. We had a strong offensive line back then (couple of 1st rounders, couple of 3rd rounders, Randy Thomas who I think was a 2nd rounder) yet we couldn't win with Shane Matthews and Danny Wuerfful...which is ridiculous because with that line those guys should have been franchise QBs.

Good point Smoot, of course O line is important (heck, every aspect of a team is important) but the NFL is a QB league and without a top flite QB a team just cant be successful. 2003 is an excellent example of this.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Reading some of these posts just brings painful reminders of 2003. We had a strong offensive line back then (couple of 1st rounders, couple of 3rd rounders, Randy Thomas who I think was a 2nd rounder) yet we couldn't win with Shane Matthews and Danny Wuerfful...which is ridiculous because with that line those guys should have been franchise QBs.

That's the year that we won the SB right? because we paid attention to only the line?

[SmootSmack]

Of course it's still possible Campbell ends up being the guy. Redskins won't just give him away and they were talking contract extension with his agent back in November/December (talks which apparently are picking up again).

All that said though, my own gut feeling is there won't be a contract extension and Campbell will be traded before the draft

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Of course it's still possible Campbell ends up being the guy. Redskins won't just give him away and they were talking contract extension with his agent back in November/December (talks which apparently are picking up again).

All that said though, my own gut feeling is there won't be a contract extension and Campbell will be traded before the draft

Then who is going QB this team next year if what you say is true. Is Shanahan willing to just start a rookie when everyone wants to win now? Also does anyone know what they think about Clausen? I think if he's there at #4 then we should take him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Then who is going QB this team next year if what you say is true. Is Shanahan willing to just start a rookie when everyone wants to win now? Also does anyone know what they think about Clausen? I think if he's there at #4 then we should take him.

The people that have a "win now" mentality shouldn't be and aren't the ones making the key decisions

I like Clausen as a QB, I give Bradford the slight edge but if he's there at #4 I wouldn't be against drafting him...of course, the answer to all our problems is Jevan Snead!!!!! What!

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The people that have a "win now" mentality shouldn't be and aren't the ones making the key decisions

I like Clausen as a QB, I give Bradford the slight edge but if he's there at #4 I wouldn't be against drafting him...of course, the answer to all our problems is Jevan Snead!!!!! What!

"The Future Is Now" was on every page in my season ticket renewal package I received by mail a couple of weeks ago. It's obvious that the future being now and winning now are two different things. It's not likely we'll win now with a rookie QB. Keep that bid going for Snead, just not in the first round. jk

[KI Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The people that have a "win now" mentality shouldn't be and aren't the ones making the key decisions

I like Clausen as a QB, I give Bradford the slight edge but if he's there at #4 I wouldn't be against drafting him.

I agree with this post, for the most part.

Look, I don't care if it does say "The Future is Now" all over your ticket renewal stuff, we're not going to win in 2010. The Redskins P.R. machine says we're not rebuilding, but we are rebuilding, regardless of the propaganda they're putting out to try to fool the season ticket holders.

With that in mind, we'll have a much better chance of going to the Super Bowl in the future if we have a franchise QB to lead us there. I'm convinced that JC is not a franchise QB. On the other hand, I think that both Bradford and Clausen might just become franchise QB's. I rate them 1A and 1B. If one of them is available when we pick at #4, we must take him for the sake of the team's future.

As for Suh, if Bradford and Clausen were both off the board, damn right I'd pick him at #4 over any OT in the draft. If there is one thing that is certain in football, it is that the other team can't beat you if they can't score. Haynesworth and Suh as the DE's in our 3-4 defense would be a nightmare for our opponents.

What we need to do is to trade some of our over-rated name players (e.g., Santana Moss and Laron Landry) and players who we no longer need or who don't fit in our new offense and defense (e.g., JC, if we pick a QB at #4, and Andre Carter) for draft picks or for other players who can help us more. Any additional picks we receive could help us re-build our OL in the future. As for now, I think we'll need to look to FA to fill out our immediate OL needs - perhaps with players such as Ben Hamilton, Chester Pitts, or Tony Pashos who have some familiarity with the techniques that Mike Shanahan uses on offense.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Then who is going QB this team next year if what you say is true. Is Shanahan willing to just start a rookie when everyone wants to win now? Also does anyone know what they think about Clausen? I think if he's there at #4 then we should take him.

I suppose we would draft a QB at #4, sign a vet like Pennington or Bulger, and see what happens from there.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I suppose we would draft a QB at #4, sign a vet like Pennington or Bulger, and see what happens from there.

What would make you think that Pennington and Bulger are better than Campbell? Hell, are they better than Todd Collins?

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

What would make you think that Pennington and Bulger are better than Campbell? Hell, are they better than Todd Collins?

I don't think that Pennington and Bulger are better than Campbell. For me, I wouldn't trade Campbell unless real riches were involved.

But the question was posed about what we will do at QB if we trade JC before the draft. In this scenario it seems to me that Shanny would want to bring in another vet, if nothing else for competition. If you then wonder what vets are available, Pennington and (likely) Bulger come to mind. That's all.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

What would make you think that Pennington and Bulger are better than Campbell? Hell, are they better than Todd Collins?

Both Pennington and Bulger can anticipate their WRs getting open and have better accuracy, but neither of them have the arm strength to be very successful in a Shanahan offense, in which the two very notable QBs, Cutler and Elway, he had both have rocket arms and along with the other necessary skills.

[Frost]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Then who is going QB this team next year if what you say is true. Is Shanahan willing to just start a rookie when everyone wants to win now? Also does anyone know what they think about Clausen? I think if he's there at #4 then we should take him.

Jake Locker ... duuuuhhhh :cool-smil

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Of course it's still possible Campbell ends up being the guy. Redskins won't just give him away and they were talking contract extension with his agent back in November/December (talks which apparently are picking up again).

All that said though, my own gut feeling is there won't be a contract extension and Campbell will be traded before the draft

Seems to me, the smart thing to do would be to give him a modest extension right now. something no more than 3 years with salaries no more than 4-5MM/year and 5MM in signing bonus money. If they decide to keep him, great.

but if they decide to trade him, having him under a contract like that should help us get more value out of him in a trade since 1) it would appear that we actually wanted him and 2) the new team wouldn't have to worry about negotiating a huge deal with him or fear that he could walk away after only one year.