Clarett runs a 4.82 40

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

exactly. that's going to be the more telling point to all of the coaches and scouts in attendance there.

and what's up with elton brown of uva pulling out of the combine? I've honestly never heard of o-lineman having personal workouts for scouts but i guess that's what he's planning.

No, what should be a more telling point is how a FOOTBALL player played FOOTBALL on a field against top talent, in a game setting. The only thing this combine is good for is the player physicals, mental tests and interviews. Everything else is over rated by the hungry media and fans who are rabid for any NFL news. Everything gets over analyzed.
So Clarrett got upset for running a bad 40. Wouldn't you, if it cost you millions? The players that decided to skip the combine are turning out to be smart, not selfish or stupid. Don't read to much into a GM or an NFL source getting upset because a player did not jump through all the hoops.

[Gmanc711]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

So Clarrett got upset for running a bad 40. Wouldn't you, if it cost you millions? The players that decided to skip the combine are turning out to be smart, not selfish or stupid. Don't read to much into a GM or an NFL source getting upset because a player did not jump through all the hoops.

Well what if he fumbles in a big game and costs a team a touchdown or somthing? Should he just pack it in and ride the bench because he is "upset". No. He should have gone back out there to try to prove somthing. I dont think he really cost himself millions either. He was proboly around a 4th-5th round pick before the combine; now he'll be lucky to get drafted. I dont feel for this guy at all. Although I do agree with your assesment on the combine, its really not a good indicator of talent.

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by Gmanc711

Well what if he fumbles in a big game and costs a team a touchdown or somthing? Should he just pack it in and ride the bench because he is "upset". No. He should have gone back out there to try to prove somthing. I dont think he really cost himself millions either. He was proboly around a 4th-5th round pick before the combine; now he'll be lucky to get drafted. I dont feel for this guy at all. Although I do agree with your assesment on the combine, its really not a good indicator of talent.

Clarrett has never packed it in a game. In fact the guy has played through injuries, a seperated shoulder, during the OSU championship year. He came in and played in big games when he was not expected to play, because his team was behind and he performed well.
You are going to compare his getting upset at a 40 yard dash time and a game situation? They do not compare.
I do not like Clarett all that much, but some folks here are demonizing him for mistakes he made when he was 17-21. I think there is a chance he might turn it around.?.?

[skinsfanthru&thru]

Originally Posted by Defensewins

No, what should be a more telling point is how a FOOTBALL player played FOOTBALL on a field against top talent, in a game setting. The only thing this combine is good for is the player physicals, mental tests and interviews. Everything else is over rated by the hungry media and fans who are rabid for any NFL news. Everything gets over analyzed.
So Clarrett got upset for running a bad 40. Wouldn't you, if it cost you millions? The players that decided to skip the combine are turning out to be smart, not selfish or stupid. Don't read to much into a GM or an NFL source getting upset because a player did not jump through all the hoops.

so it's ok for a player who's had 2 years of negative press to quit in front of his possible future employers after one aspect of the combine didn't go well for him? I don't remember other players in recent years having a lower than desired 40 time like Terrel Suggs or Michael Clayton just up and quit. I can understand his way of thinking with him having his personal workout to help make up for his slow 40s but quitting after that doesn't make sense when he could have kept going and showed some of this "maturing" that he's supposedly gone through to his naysayers.
No matter how trivial the combine may be to some, it does adjust some players rankings for better or for worse and I'm sure some coaches may even look more at what a player does after a bad time or a mental mistake than the actual numbers themselves.

actual atheletic talent can only take players so far (ie Darryl Russel, Dimetrius Underwood, Alonzo Spellman) and knowing a player has his head on straight is just as important as his physical abilities.