Mega-Merge: 2010 Free Agency Rumors and Reports Thread

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Giantone... you usually are a pretty good sport about your posts. You are coming off very aggressive. For a team who fell apart last year.

YES you guys overpaid for Rolle. Glad it was you and not us.

And yes AH was overpaid. Way to point out the obvious.

Thereis a new regime. these guys will build our teams of the future to beat you. They may not have done much the last few years, but all they needed was some new scenery. We will get it done.

You put Rolle and Kenny Phillips back there together and you have already upgrade to 1 of the top DB groups in the NFC.
I realize there is a "new regime" as you put it .....................and no it's not being aggressive at all just wondering ,the Skins have always treaded FA like there was no cap,now there is no cap so other teams are doing what it was the Skins did when there was a cap.Point........this might have been the time for the Skins to open up instead of sit on the side lines.Does AH play NG.....he doesn't want to,so now what,make him a 3point DE???Had you guys got Peppers and put Haynsworth at nose and Orakpo at outside Lber.....no joke holy shit 1 of if not they best D side in the NFC.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Giantone

You put Rolle and Kenny Phillips back there together and you have already upgrade to 1 of the top DB groups in the NFC.
I realize there is a "new regime" as you put it .....................and no it's not being aggressive at all just wondering ,the Skins have always treaded FA like there was no cap,now there is no cap so other teams are doing what it was the Skins did when there was a cap.Point........this might have been the time for the Skins to open up instead of sit on the side lines.Does AH play NG.....he doesn't want to,so now what,make him a 3point DE???Had you guys got Peppers and put Haynsworth at nose and Orakpo at outside Lber.....no joke holy shit 1 of if not they best D side in the NFC.

Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble but Kenny Phillips is probably done. They wouldn't have needed Rolle if Phillips was going to be able to play the way he did before he got hurt.

The Bears and Seattle are the only teams acting like Vinny Cerrato. We are choosing to spend WISELY this year. There are plenty of signings left in our future, just no overspending.

If we sign Kemo and a linebacker we will be just as formidable up front. Hell, we may play Phat Al at linebacker. Haslett says he can do it.

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble but Kenny Phillips is probably done. They wouldn't have needed Rolle if Phillips was going to be able to play the way he did before he got hurt.

The Bears and Seattle are the only teams acting like Vinny Cerrato. We are choosing to spend WISELY this year. There are plenty of signings left in our future, just no overspending.

If we sign Kemo and a linebacker we will be just as formidable up front. Hell, we may play Phat Al at linebacker. Haslett says he can do it.

And not only that, but the Giants hardly had a stalwart defense to begin with last year. They broke down over and over again at the most critical points in the game. I think Rolle is pretty good, but the Giants will still have issues on defense.

[Giantone]

[QUOTE=Pocket$ $traight;670704]Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble but Kenny Phillips is probably done. They wouldn't have needed Rolle if Phillips was going to be able to play the way he did before he got hurt.

QUOTE]

Nope , may I remind you we will have a new DC,and a new scheme.

What is it that you know about KP that no other expert knows,that makes you believe he is done?

[Lotus]

[quote=Giantone;670729]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble but Kenny Phillips is probably done. They wouldn't have needed Rolle if Phillips was going to be able to play the way he did before he got hurt.

QUOTE]

Nope , may I remind you we will have a new DC,and a new scheme.

What is it that you know about KP that no other expert knows,that makes you believe he is done?

Many people, and not just people here, are assuming that the Rolle signing signals that Phillips is done.

[Giantone]

[quote=Lotus;670732]

Originally Posted by ;670729

Many people, and not just people here, are assuming that the Rolle signing signals that Phillips is done.

Like who,let's remeber what happens when we ........assume.

[Lotus]

[quote=Giantone;670749]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Like who,let's remeber what happens when we ........assume.

Let's see, the Giants just paid big bucks for a free safety when they already had one. If you can't do the math on that one, I can.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Many people, and not just people here, are assuming that the Rolle signing signals that Phillips is done.

From.....BBI

Notes and Quotes: Safety Antrel Rolle will wear #26 for the New York Giants.
Head Coach Tom Coughlin on safeties Antrel Rolle and Kenny Phillips: “The idea that this is associated with the Kenny Phillips situation is incorrect. We needed to answer some questions in terms of the safety position. This move puts in a position now where we feel this can be a really strong part of our team. We needed to really solidify and help the safety position based on last year’s experience. That’s the reason this objective was so important to us.”
Coughlin said that both Rolle and Phillips will play both safety spots. “They’re interchangeable,” Coughlin said. “Both safeties will find themselves in the half (covering half the field), in the middle of the field, down at the line of scrimmage, being involved in covering the lost. Both safeties will be interchangeable in terms of their ability to be multi-functional. Both safeties will be involved in the pressure package.”
Coughlin on Rolle: “Antrel is an energetic, very likeable, bubbly young guy who is very, very impressive in terms of his ability, his football knowledge and his desire to learn more and to know more about the game. He really enjoys sitting in the room with a tape on, talking football. He made a very, very favorable impression that way with all of us.”
Rolle on how good he think a safety combination of him and Kenny Phillips can be: “The best in the league, hands down. I know what we’re capable of, and I know, as a unit, what abilities we have in order to get things done. It’s going to be up to us to establish that relationship and that chemistry to make sure we’re on the same page and to make sure we’re all one within this secondary. The sky’s the limit for us. We’re definitely going to go out there and make things happen.”

[wolfeskins]

Originally Posted by Giantone

From.....BBI

Notes and Quotes: Safety Antrel Rolle will wear #26 for the New York Giants.
Head Coach Tom Coughlin on safeties Antrel Rolle and Kenny Phillips: “The idea that this is associated with the Kenny Phillips situation is incorrect. We needed to answer some questions in terms of the safety position. This move puts in a position now where we feel this can be a really strong part of our team. We needed to really solidify and help the safety position based on last year’s experience. That’s the reason this objective was so important to us.”
Coughlin said that both Rolle and Phillips will play both safety spots. “They’re interchangeable,” Coughlin said. “Both safeties will find themselves in the half (covering half the field), in the middle of the field, down at the line of scrimmage, being involved in covering the lost. Both safeties will be interchangeable in terms of their ability to be multi-functional. Both safeties will be involved in the pressure package.”
Coughlin on Rolle: “Antrel is an energetic, very likeable, bubbly young guy who is very, very impressive in terms of his ability, his football knowledge and his desire to learn more and to know more about the game. He really enjoys sitting in the room with a tape on, talking football. He made a very, very favorable impression that way with all of us.”

Rolle on how good he think a safety combination of him and Kenny Phillips can be: “The best in the league, hands down. I know what we’re capable of, and I know, as a unit, what abilities we have in order to get things done. It’s going to be up to us to establish that relationship and that chemistry to make sure we’re on the same page and to make sure we’re all one within this secondary. The sky’s the limit for us. We’re definitely going to go out there and make things happen.”

Like who,let's remeber what happens when we ........assume.

your words, not mine.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by wolfeskins

your words, not mine.

nope, that was a quote from Lotus.(i think)

[NYCskinfan82]

Originally Posted by Giantone

From.....BBI

Notes and Quotes: Safety Antrel Rolle will wear #26 for the New York Giants.
Head Coach Tom Coughlin on safeties Antrel Rolle and Kenny Phillips: “The idea that this is associated with the Kenny Phillips situation is incorrect. We needed to answer some questions in terms of the safety position. This move puts in a position now where we feel this can be a really strong part of our team. We needed to really solidify and help the safety position based on last year’s experience. That’s the reason this objective was so important to us.”
Coughlin said that both Rolle and Phillips will play both safety spots. “They’re interchangeable,” Coughlin said. “Both safeties will find themselves in the half (covering half the field), in the middle of the field, down at the line of scrimmage, being involved in covering the lost. Both safeties will be interchangeable in terms of their ability to be multi-functional. Both safeties will be involved in the pressure package.”
Coughlin on Rolle: “Antrel is an energetic, very likeable, bubbly young guy who is very, very impressive in terms of his ability, his football knowledge and his desire to learn more and to know more about the game. He really enjoys sitting in the room with a tape on, talking football. He made a very, very favorable impression that way with all of us.”
Rolle on how good he think a safety combination of him and Kenny Phillips can be: “The best in the league, hands down. I know what we’re capable of, and I know, as a unit, what abilities we have in order to get things done. It’s going to be up to us to establish that relationship and that chemistry to make sure we’re on the same page and to make sure we’re all one within this secondary. The sky’s the limit for us. We’re definitely going to go out there and make things happen.”

They used the same words we used for ST (RIP) & Landry. Theirs won't be as good as ours would've been.

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by NYCskinfan82

They used the same words we used for ST (RIP) & Landry. Theirs won't be as good as ours would've been.

...ok.:confused:

[Pocket$ $traight]

[quote=Giantone;670729]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble but Kenny Phillips is probably done. They wouldn't have needed Rolle if Phillips was going to be able to play the way he did before he got hurt.

QUOTE]

Nope , may I remind you we will have a new DC,and a new scheme.

What is it that you know about KP that no other expert knows,that makes you believe he is done?

I don't know anything more than what the experts have published but Phillips played free safety and the Giants just paid 37 million for a free safety. Now maybe Phillips has a year or two left in him but he has arthritis in his knee and is coming off of a season ending hip injury. Either way, it doesn't seem like they felt like they could count on Phillips as a long term solution.

From the outside, I thought the G-men needed a linebacker more than a safety.

The G-men's FO is pretty good normally and for them to make an unusual move like this may be a signal.

[12thMan]

[quote=Giantone;670729]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Sorry, I hate to burst your bubble but Kenny Phillips is probably done. They wouldn't have needed Rolle if Phillips was going to be able to play the way he did before he got hurt.

QUOTE]

Nope , may I remind you we will have a new DC,and a new scheme.

What is it that you know about KP that no other expert knows,that makes you believe he is done?

What is that supposed to mean? I think the Giants are going to have some issues on the defensive side of the ball again this year. Last year they yielded nearly 30 points per game, Osi Umenyiora still isn't happy about being benched and you axed, arguably, the best play caller in football: Antonio Pierce. And they just made Antrel Rolle the highest paid safety in football history. (though the final point is relative nowadays). He's good, but I don't know about that one.

My point is the Giants simply don't have a scheme problem, there are personnel issues they have to address this offseason. Can Kenny Phillips rebound coming off injured reserve, there's still no clear cut successor to Antonio Pierce in the middle, and can Rolle have an immediate impact on a defense that gave up over 40 points three times last year?

[Giantone]

[quote=12thMan;670737]

Originally Posted by Giantone

What is that supposed to mean? I think the Giants are going to have some issues on the defensive side of the ball again this year. Last year they yielded nearly 30 points per game, Osi Umenyiora still isn't happy about being benched and you axed, arguably, the best play caller in football: Antonio Pierce. And they just made Antrel Rolle the highest paid safety in football history. (though the final point is relative nowadays). He's good, but I don't know about that one.

My point is the Giants simply don't have a scheme problem, there are personnel issues they have to address this offseason. Can Kenny Phillips rebound coming off injured reserve, there's still no clear cut successor to Antonio Pierce in the middle, and can Rolle have an immediate impact on a defense that gave up over 40 points three times last year?

Thanks, but the "issues " ...your word not mine are fixable and not a reason of panic(or hope to opponents)for the Giants.Yup they gave up 40 3 times last year lets look at the IR roster for the Giants,Goff will be fine at Mlber,just keeping our D line healthy,plus the addition of Rolle and we win half of what we lost.Please feel free to underestimate wether Rolle can help or not ,please keep telling yourself these things if it helps you sleep better at night.