Redskins Sign Larry Johnson

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

You love me how dont....wait, I love me dont how you........ummm, give me a second....wait, WHAT?!!!!!!! Is dyslexia treatable?

;D

with grammar that like, Im glad I dont read any posts on here!!

LOL...well played. You got me there. At least I know you read one post here

As for LJ, it's been mentioned already I believe but we should probably hope he reaches $12 million +, because that would mean he performed well, was on his best behavior, and the team was successful. If those things don't happen he's not even getting a third of that money.

Of the 30 year old backs out on the market, he has by far the least wear and tear of them all, even less than CP I believe (though he's older). On the field, I like this move better than Parker because a) if Parker doesn't have his speed then what does he offer really, at least LJ you get a 230 lb. power back and b) now we can focus on getting a young speedster in the draft (cough...CJ Spiller...cough, though apparently Joe McKnight is high on our radar)

Off the field, I don't mean to make light of his domestic abuse incidents and allegations but I think there's a misconception that he went around punching women. As I understand, one time he was charged for waving a gun during an argument with his girlfriend, another time he was accused of throwing a drink in a girl's face at a club. One time I heard he allegedly pushed some woman down those claims were apparently found to be unsubstantiated, if I recall correctly. Again, not trying to make light of it or justify it. Just saying it doesn't seem like he was going Chuck Norris on a bunch of women.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL...well played. You got me there. At least I know you read one post here

As for LJ, it's been mentioned already I believe but we should probably hope he reaches $12 million +, because that would mean he performed well, was on his best behavior, and the team was successful. If those things don't happen he's not even getting a third of that money.

Of the 30 year old backs out on the market, he has by far the least wear and tear of them all, even less than CP I believe (though he's older). On the field, I like this move better than Parker because a) if Parker doesn't have his speed then what does he offer really, at least LJ you get a 230 lb. power back and b) now we can focus on getting a young speedster in the draft (cough...CJ Spiller...cough, though apparently Joe McKnight is high on our radar)

Off the field, I don't mean to make light of his domestic abuse incidents and allegations but I think there's a misconception that he went around punching women. As I understand, one time he was charged for waving a gun during an argument with his girlfriend, another time he was accused of throwing a drink in a girl's face at a club. One time I heard he allegedly pushed some woman down those claims were apparently found to be unsubstantiated, if I recall correctly. Again, not trying to make light of it or justify it. Just saying it doesn't seem like he was going Chuck Norris on a bunch of women.

Look, as far as this signing alone, I understand it to a degree, I just dont like it. I hope he does reach all the incentives, that would be a first in a signing like this for our squad. I just think his production could be equaled (spelling)
with a younger back taken in the mid - late rounds of the draft. Its not a reach to think that with Shanahan. And for the people that keep quoting my posts acting like I am an idiot because I dont put names of possible alternatives to LJ in them, think about what you are saying, and then think about what I said. The RB's before shanahan molded them didn't have any real degrees of success, or were not known previous to entrance into his system, or RB factory, so to say. Just knowing his tendencies and track record with young RB's, this signing just didnt make sense. I hate the fact that we only have five picks. I think if we had the 7 or maybe 8 picks, this move doesnt even get made. But, heres to hoping. I can see the upside at the end of the tunnel now, one might say. I dont post without doing some research or reading posts made earlier in the thread, contrary to your beliefs, Smoot. It sees like the people ridiculing my posts concerning this issue aren't really taking into full account what I was saying, but hey, thats ok. Its all in good fun, and all in hopes of a brighter tomorrow for the squad we all love. Passion is good. I love the degree of talk on these forums. They have more free minded intellectual members than all the other Redskins boards combined!! I might even think about splurging and giving $20 of my E-5 pay to the movement!!!! (and thats saying alot, knowing how much E-5's in the army get paid!)

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

LOL...well played. You got me there. At least I know you read one post here

As for LJ, it's been mentioned already I believe but we should probably hope he reaches $12 million +, because that would mean he performed well, was on his best behavior, and the team was successful. If those things don't happen he's not even getting a third of that money.

Of the 30 year old backs out on the market, he has by far the least wear and tear of them all, even less than CP I believe (though he's older). On the field, I like this move better than Parker because a) if Parker doesn't have his speed then what does he offer really, at least LJ you get a 230 lb. power back and b) now we can focus on getting a young speedster in the draft (cough...CJ Spiller...cough, though apparently Joe McKnight is high on our radar)

Off the field, I don't mean to make light of his domestic abuse incidents and allegations but I think there's a misconception that he went around punching women. As I understand, one time he was charged for waving a gun during an argument with his girlfriend, another time he was accused of throwing a drink in a girl's face at a club. One time I heard he allegedly pushed some woman down those claims were apparently found to be unsubstantiated, if I recall correctly. Again, not trying to make light of it or justify it. Just saying it doesn't seem like he was going Chuck Norris on a bunch of women.

The clarification on his past is appreciated. Honestly I never followed LJ much cuz, well cuz of who he played for...I mean c'mon the Chiefs are high in the runnin for most boring franchise.

Like others I've just thought he's more of a headcase than anything else. I don't think there's any disputing he's the best FA RB, possibly by a wide margin. Johnson is tough as nails and hasn't had near the line to run behind most marque backs get. He's a bit like CP in that regard but Johnson's line was even worse. I could see him have at least two huge seasons.

I think the big question now is whether Shanny tries to make CP into a slasher again. Not sure Portis has the speed/agility to get there again, which makes me wonder if CP is headed out the door if we get a solid prospect.

Best case scenario we have two vet RBs rededicating themselves to career and team along w/ a great young prospect who can break some big ones.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

On an additional note, I love how noone questions these moves, or lack thereof. I do hope people recall that Shanahan was borderline as a coach his last two seasons in Denver, and one might say the last 3 seasons. Sub 500 record the last 36 games. If he didnt inherit our defense, Id really be concerned this year as well. Anyone realize that he was ranked 30th and 28th in 2008 and 2007 in defensive pts allowed, respectively? And this team does not have the offense to offset that type of point differential, and what is being done to avoid that?? Larry Johnson and a career backup guard that wouldnt even get a starting spot on 90% of teams? Come on now, this has to make some fans in Redskin Nation a little uneasy.

It would have been better if you had mentioned Ron Dayne.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

On an additional note, I love how noone questions these moves, or lack thereof. I do hope people recall that Shanahan was borderline as a coach his last two seasons in Denver, and one might say the last 3 seasons. Sub 500 record the last 36 games. If he didnt inherit our defense, Id really be concerned this year as well. Anyone realize that he was ranked 30th and 28th in 2008 and 2007 in defensive pts allowed, respectively? And this team does not have the offense to offset that type of point differential, and what is being done to avoid that?? Larry Johnson and a career backup guard that wouldnt even get a starting spot on 90% of teams? Come on now, this has to make some fans in Redskin Nation a little uneasy.

Shanahan has admitted that he made some mistakes and that is why Haslett was brought in.

Shanny is here to fix the offense and won't be destroying the defense.

[diehardskin2982]

Now all we have to do is draft Blount and we will have three tools in the shed!

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by diehardskin2982

Now all we have to do is draft Blount and we will have three tools in the shed!

I know right! Maybe Blount will go over the G-men's sideline and sucker punch Coughlin, back up real quick, and scream "you want some of this old man!"

[Mechanix544]

Now, with the above being said, I am still happy he is here with us, and have nothing but adoration for the guy.

[DIRTEE]

I like the pick up of Larry Johnson. I'm sure Clinton will be back down to 205 again and Larry will be the speedy 230 pound back we haven't had in a while.

[beemnsevenspop]

Originally Posted by DIRTEE

I like the pick up of Larry Johnson. I'm sure Clinton will be back down to 205 again and Larry will be the speedy 230 pound back we haven't had in a while.

Oh yeah. And those faces appearing on Mount Rushmore are naturally-occurring phenomena....

Sad to say, this team has historically been enamored of freaking has-beens, and apparently, is willing to continue the tradition.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by beemnsevenspop

Oh yeah. And those faces appearing on Mount Rushmore are naturally-occurring phenomena....

Sad to say, this team has historically been enamored of freaking has-beens, and apparently, is willing to continue the tradition.

I guess it's safe to say you're not satisfied with the way Allen & Sahnahan are conducting business.

[tdSKINS1]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I guess it's safe to say you're not satisfied with the way Allen & Sahnahan are conducting business.

It appears that way haha.

[beemnsevenspop]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

I guess it's safe to say you're not satisfied with the way Allen & Sahnahan are conducting business.

No, actually, I'm not dissatisfied so far; and, following the "Great Purge", I DO realize we are in need of some running backs. But it seems as though we have this annoying habit of judging talent based on peak performances rather than on recent history (e.g., ARE, Stubblefield, Wilkinson, Sanders, etc., etc., just to name a few.) I feel that we've had MORE than our fair share of failed experiments.

Based on the last four years, I'm of the opinion that LJ is on the decline rather than ascension. That DOESN'T mean he can't contribute, but as far as I'm concerned, I had hopes for a higher caliber back, since hopefully Portis will be shown the door before the beginning of the season.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by beemnsevenspop

No, actually, I'm not dissatisfied so far; and, following the "Great Purge", I DO realize we are in need of some running backs. But it seems as though we have this annoying habit of judging talent based on peak performances rather than on recent history (e.g., ARE, Stubblefield, Wilkinson, Sanders, etc., etc., just to name a few.) I feel that we've had MORE than our fair share of failed experiments.

Based on the last four years, I'm of the opinion that LJ is on the decline rather than ascension. That DOESN'T mean he can't contribute, but as far as I'm concerned, I had hopes for a higher caliber back, since hopefully Portis will be shown the door before the beginning of the season.

I think you'll have to wait until the draft to get that higher caliber back, the options are/were pretty limited in free agency

[celts32]

Originally Posted by beemnsevenspop

No, actually, I'm not dissatisfied so far; and, following the "Great Purge", I DO realize we are in need of some running backs. But it seems as though we have this annoying habit of judging talent based on peak performances rather than on recent history (e.g., ARE, Stubblefield, Wilkinson, Sanders, etc., etc., just to name a few.) I feel that we've had MORE than our fair share of failed experiments.

Based on the last four years, I'm of the opinion that LJ is on the decline rather than ascension. That DOESN'T mean he can't contribute, but as far as I'm concerned, I had hopes for a higher caliber back, since hopefully Portis will be shown the door before the beginning of the season.

It's not fair to lump the current front office in with what "we" have done wrong for the last decade. They have been on the job a couple months and made a few relatively minor moves so far. Every player they signed so far could just be backups meant to create the "competition" at every position that Shanny is looking for. IE: if LJ's presence makes Portis get his ass in gear then that's a good thing whether or not LJ gains a yard for us next year.