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[T.O.Killa]

When I called the Cutler trade, everyone laughed at me. I said a 1st 3rd and Campbell. It came down to Campbell versus Orton.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

When I called the Cutler trade, everyone laughed at me. I said a 1st 3rd and Campbell. It came down to Campbell versus Orton.

The Cutler trade was idiotic. Thank goodness the Bears saved us from ourselves. Every person in Bears management is fighting for their job now because of that deal.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

When I called the Cutler trade, everyone laughed at me. I said a 1st 3rd and Campbell. It came down to Campbell versus Orton.

The oppurtunity cost of getting Cutler turned out to be Orakpo. Basically, a QB negator vs. a QB.

Now, even with the heightened importance of the QB position, most Super Bowl winning teams have other cornerstones besides a QB. Namely, an above-average to elite pass rusher, a solid O-line, at least one playmaker in the secondary and linebacking corps, special teams, and a coach who can coach. Had Cutler come here, we would have still been stuck with incompetent Zorn, a soft defense that's about as archaic and predictable as one could get, and a shitty running game that in turn leads into a one-dimensional and ineffective offense.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

When I called the Cutler trade, everyone laughed at me. I said a 1st 3rd and Campbell. It came down to Campbell versus Orton.

And we would still be laughing at you right now.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

And we would still be laughing at you right now.

Hey I love Orakpo, but Cutler and Shannahan would have been a match made in heaven. Don't count Cutler out, yet.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey I love Orakpo, but Cutler and Shannahan would have been a match made in heaven. Don't count Cutler out, yet.

How many playoff games did they go to together in Denver? Or are you talking about Kyle?

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

How many playoff games did they go to together in Denver? Or are you talking about Kyle?

Ah the joy of being an NFL QB. Everything goes right you get all the credit. Something goes wrong and the blame falls squarely on you.

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ah the joy of being an NFL QB. Everything goes right you get all the credit. Something goes wrong and the blame falls squarely on you.

The response I made was to the remark of Cutler and Shanahan being a match made in heaven. Certainly the QB and coach have some impact of whether the team goes to the playoffs or not. Do you disagree? I don't see how they're thought of as a match made in heaven. Based on what? His 37 INT's or their 17-20 record together?

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

The response I made was to the remark of Cutler and Shanahan being a match made in heaven. Certainly the QB and coach have some impact of whether the team goes to the playoffs or not. Do you disagree? I don't see how they're thought of as a match made in heaven. Based on what? His INT totals?

Shanahan the GM got in the way of Shanahan the coach because he had a crappy D and was too loyal to Slowik the D-coordinator. Denver had one of the best O's in the league in 2008, but Peyton Hillis was the last "super-effective" RB they had before they began running on empty and finished 8-8. But yeah, a match made in heaven is total hyperbole.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Hey I love Orakpo, but Cutler and Shannahan would have been a match made in heaven. Don't count Cutler out, yet.

Still there's no tell what the outcome would have been. Cutler playing behind our shitty line would probably have been no good (definitely would have thrown more INTs). And let's say he would have played decently, now we would be one Pro Bowler LB short (Orakpo) and one CB (Barnes).

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Still there's no tell what the outcome would have been. Cutler playing behind our shitty line would probably have been no good (definitely would have thrown more INTs). And let's say he would have played decently, now we would be one Pro Bowler LB short (Orakpo) and one CB (Barnes).

I think he would have had less INTs because he would have been on his back twice as much.

We also would have been without the 4th pick this year.

Like I said, the Cutler deal was idiotic.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I think he would have had less INTs because he would have been on his back twice as much.

We also would have been without the 4th pick this year.

Like I said, the Cutler deal was idiotic.