Redskins Sign Larry Johnson

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by dirtythirty

Im not saying LJ is the best running back ever. I dont think one of those guys is a top ten best running back that has ever played besides Emmit. Guys like Barry Sanders, Jim Brown, Walter Payton, Marshal Fault, Erik Dickerson are top 10 backs......... I am just saying I hope he proves you haters wrong. I dont agree with the statement that once a runningback hit 30 his career is over. Those are just some guys who show age doesnt matter. Talk to me next year after protis gets hut and LJ carries the weight better than any of our backups have done in years. Oh and there are plent of more wr over 30 that have had very productive seasons...

Martin and Bettis are 4th and 5th all time respectively. I could see you saying that they aren't top 5 all time but how do you leave them out of the top 10?

Don't group me as a "hater", I have been for the LJ signing as soon as it happened. You can disagree, with it but the statistics are pretty clear cut for 30 year old rushers.

I know that there are plenty of 30 year old receivers who have been productive. You missed my point. You gave 6 examples of runningbacks who had a good season at 30 or older. One is the all time leading rusher in the league and two of the others are in the top 5 of ALL TIME.

IMO, I think that LJ will be a good back for us. I am not sure he will ever go into a season as our starter.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Martin and Bettis are 4th and 5th all time respectively. I could see you saying that they aren't top 5 all time but how do you leave them out of the top 10?

Don't group me as a "hater", I have been for the LJ signing as soon as it happened. You can disagree, with it but the statistics are pretty clear cut for 30 year old rushers.

I know that there are plenty of 30 year old receivers who have been productive. You missed my point. You gave 6 examples of runningbacks who had a good season at 30 or older. One is the all time leading rusher in the league and two of the others are in the top 5 of ALL TIME.

IMO, I think that LJ will be a good back for us. I am not sure he will ever go into a season as our starter.

Sorry dude. I had to call you on this. Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis the 4th and 5th best RB of all time. Tell Ewan Macgregor to take the needle out of your arm, and no, babies cannot crawl upside down on ceilings.

Uhhhhhhhh......Sanders, Smith, Dickerson, Payton, Campbell, Brown, marcus Allen, Craig, Peterson, Tomlinson, OJ, Gale Sayers, Bo Jackson.......All of these guys I am sorry are better RB's than the two u mentioned. I know this thread isnt a who is the best of all time thread, but I had to make a rebuttle post when I saw that hazardous waste on the board.

Seriously, Martin and Bettis. I dont think Ive laughed so hard in my life.

Bettis was a very good back, but not even top 12 all time.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Sorry dude. I had to call you on this. Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis the 4th and 5th best RB of all time. Tell Ewan Macgregor to take the needle out of your arm, and no, babies cannot crawl upside down on ceilings.

Uhhhhhhhh......Sanders, Smith, Dickerson, Payton, Campbell, Brown, marcus Allen, Craig, Peterson, Tomlinson, OJ, Gale Sayers, Bo Jackson.......All of these guys I am sorry are better RB's than the two u mentioned. I know this thread isnt a who is the best of all time thread, but I had to make a rebuttle post when I saw that hazardous waste on the board.

Seriously, Martin and Bettis. I dont think Ive laughed so hard in my life.

Bettis was a very good back, but not even top 12 all time.

In terms of career rushing yards, he's right. Curtis Martin is 4th all-time, and Jerome Bettis is 5th all-time.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by Mechanix544

Sorry dude. I had to call you on this. Curtis Martin and Jerome Bettis the 4th and 5th best RB of all time. Tell Ewan Macgregor to take the needle out of your arm, and no, babies cannot crawl upside down on ceilings.

Uhhhhhhhh......Sanders, Smith, Dickerson, Payton, Campbell, Brown, marcus Allen, Craig, Peterson, Tomlinson, OJ, Gale Sayers, Bo Jackson.......All of these guys I am sorry are better RB's than the two u mentioned. I know this thread isnt a who is the best of all time thread, but I had to make a rebuttle post when I saw that hazardous waste on the board.

Seriously, Martin and Bettis. I dont think Ive laughed so hard in my life.

Bettis was a very good back, but not even top 12 all time.

When I said they were 4th and 5th all time it was referring to their rushing numbers. It is my fault for assuming that you could figure that out, I will never make that mistake again.

You are welcome for the laugh. Since I laugh that hard every time you post something, I owed you at least one.

Now, please continue with the stream of consciousness of a 6th grade football fan.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

Martin and Bettis are 4th and 5th all time respectively. I could see you saying that they aren't top 5 all time but how do you leave them out of the top 10?

Don't group me as a "hater", I have been for the LJ signing as soon as it happened. You can disagree, with it but the statistics are pretty clear cut for 30 year old rushers.

I know that there are plenty of 30 year old receivers who have been productive. You missed my point. You gave 6 examples of runningbacks who had a good season at 30 or older. One is the all time leading rusher in the league and two of the others are in the top 5 of ALL TIME.

IMO, I think that LJ will be a good back for us. I am not sure he will ever go into a season as our starter.

I would not put Martin or Bettis in an all time top 10 either. Football is a sport where the record book is not really the final say on who was best. For instance i think most people would agree that Emmit Smith was not the best RB of all time even though he holds the record. I have easily seen more then 10 RB's in my lifetime that I think are better then Martin & Bettis. They were durable and played well for a long time but many other RB's were better IMO.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by celts32

I would not put Martin or Bettis in an all time top 10 either. Football is a sport where the record book is not really the final say on who was best. For instance i think most people would agree that Emmit Smith was not the best RB of all time even though he holds the record. I have easily seen more then 10 RB's in my lifetime that I think are better then Martin & Bettis. They were durable and played well for a long time but many other RB's were better IMO.

But again, he was right in terms of them statistically being 4th and 5th best all time. And the fact that they were able to play consistently well for so long shouldn't be dismissed.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

But again, he was right in terms of them statistically being 4th and 5th best all time. And the fact that they were able to play consistently well for so long shouldn't be dismissed.

True he was right in that regard. They are definitely great players who played at a high level for a long time, but I just wouldn't rate them top 10 all time. It doesn't really matter though...the fact that they rank so high statistically still supports the original point that was made.