Texas wants to rewrite the US History books

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Funny how the rest of the world has no problems learning multiple languages, why can't we? Start teaching it at an early age and it won't be an issue. I cringe when I hear people say if you don't know the language here then leave. Kinda goes against what this country was built on in the first place. Aren't we supposed to be the melting pot? With that stubborn mentality we're going to be left in the dust in no time.

No, people say if your not willing to learn the language then leave and that makes perfect sense.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by firstdown

No, people say if your not willing to learn the language then leave and that makes perfect sense.

Who's to say they aren't willing?

And maybe if we had a bilingual education system to begin with it wouldn't be such a problem.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Who's to say they aren't willing?

And maybe if we had a bilingual education system to begin with it wouldn't be such a problem.

There actually are plenty of ESL programs right now, we all pay for them with taxes.

However, when I go to an ATM or post office, I don't think spending exorbitant money on documents and systems in 8 languages is appropriate or necessary.

Like it or not, English is the language of business and therefore success in this nation. If coming here, they need to know it and use it without the expectation of some that WE cater to THEM.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Buster

There actually are plenty of ESL programs right now, we all pay for them with taxes.

However, when I go to an ATM or post office, I don't think spending exorbitant money on documents and systems in 8 languages is appropriate or necessary.

Like it or not, English is the language of business and therefore success in this nation. If coming here, they need to know it and use it without the expectation of some that WE cater to THEM.

Pssst, these companies aren't required to offer Spanish language ATMs...they do it because they want to do business with Hispanics. You're free to choose your bank, go choose one that doesn't have bilingual ATMs.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by saden1

Pssst, these companies aren't required to offer Spanish language ATMs...they do it because they want to do business with Hispanics. You're free to choose your bank, go choose one that doesn't have bilingual ATMs.

It frightens me how little people try to explain things before they complain about them. Reminds me of the census letter before the form thread.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Buster

There actually are plenty of ESL programs right now, we all pay for them with taxes.
.

If we didn't make churches tax exempt ESL wouldn't be a problem

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Who's to say they aren't willing?

And maybe if we had a bilingual education system to begin with it wouldn't be such a problem.

The problem is that people move here but will not learn the language. Yes. people are unwilling or too lazy to learn the language. I have customers that only one person in the family has learned to speak english. My mother-in-law moved from Germany and she learned to speak english because that is our language and she did not expect us to learn Germany.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The problem is that people move here but will not learn the language. Yes. people are unwilling or too lazy to learn the language. I have customers that only one person in the family has learned to speak english. My mother-in-law moved from Germany and she learned to speak english because that is our language and she did not expect us to learn Germany.

You have no idea what it takes to learn English, no idea.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

You have no idea what it takes to learn English, no idea.

ease up, he's still learning how to spell in English

lol

[saden1]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

ease up, he's still learning how to spell in English

lol

I'm serious....learning English is an arduous 9 year process and people talk about it as if it takes minutes. Not only that but when you speak to them in broken English and you're trying they tell you learn English.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by saden1

I'm serious....learning English is an arduous 9 year process and people talk about it as if it takes minutes. Not only that but when you speak to them in broken English and you're trying they tell you learn English.

Oh I know, they say it's one of the most difficult to learn and it's definitely one of the most complex languages.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by saden1

I'm serious....learning English is an arduous 9 year process and people talk about it as if it takes minutes. Not only that but when you speak to them in broken English and you're trying they tell you learn English.

Yea, I bet that's what you ment. The scary thing is my mom is an English master and alomost has her Dr's. I don't think she knows how bad my english really is.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by firstdown

The problem is that people move here but will not learn the language. Yes. people are unwilling or too lazy to learn the language. I have customers that only one person in the family has learned to speak english. My mother-in-law moved from Germany and she learned to speak english because that is our language and she did not expect us to learn Germany.

it takes people time.. these people are typically supporting families, working at least one job, etc.. they don't always have time for English lessons

I seriously doubt that my ancestors (except for maybe the very affluent.. wish I had been direct lineage of them haha) knew English, aside from the British ones. It's easy for us to say learn it, but think of our level of English and how long that took to master? I'd rather someone depend someone else on English if it means that they're making an honest living. Sure there are those who do neither, but there are plenty of people that speak English that don't as well.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

it takes people time.. these people are typically supporting families, working at least one job, etc.. they don't always have time for English lessons

I seriously doubt that my ancestors (except for maybe the very affluent.. wish I had been direct lineage of them haha) knew English, aside from the British ones. It's easy for us to say learn it, but think of our level of English and how long that took to master? I'd rather someone depend someone else on English if it means that they're making an honest living. Sure there are those who do neither, but there are plenty of people that speak English that don't as well.

Thats just an excuse. I'm not saying become an english master just learn the language so you can communicate. I had a secretary from Italy working at my office and I would always find files out of place. One day a dawned on me that she did not know the alphabet. She knew all the letters but never learned them like us and that little ABC song.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Thats just an excuse. I'm not saying become an english master just learn the language so you can communicate. I had a secretary from Italy working at my office and I would always find files out of place. One day a dawned on me that she did not know the alphabet. She knew all the letters but never learned them like us and that little ABC song.

Just because a jackass subset of our population thinks that people should have to speak the language does not make it the law. You're free to speak whatever you want in the United States. Maybe if you don't like that, you should leave, FD.

The logic can be turned in either direction.