Texas wants to rewrite the US History books

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Well I'd counter that the bill of rights, through the right to worship freely, pretty much sets the stage for the separation of church and state. I mean think about it, if the citizens are free to worship whoever and whatever they want, how can you legislate based on one set of beliefs vs another?

This was to protect the churches FROM the Government more than to keep religion out of Government. Look at the times it was written and the Church of England being controlled by the Government and forced upon the citizenry.

The Founders were primarily Christians and there are citations of God all throughout written laws, on Government buildings and on currency. They never had any intention to separate Church from State, only to keep the "State" our of churches and let people worship as they choose to or not at all. They didn't say that beliefs had to be censored or hidden at all. They had their very public beliefs BUT the also did not want to prevent others from having and displaying theirs even if different.

The whole concept has been twisted in attempts to silence religious practices completely. The Founders intended on Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion as many push today.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Buster

This was to protect the churches FROM the Government more than to keep religion out of Government. Look at the times it was written and the Church of England being controlled by the Government and forced upon the citizenry.

The Founders were primarily Christians and there are citations of God all throughout written laws, on Government buildings and on currency. They never had any intention to separate Church from State, only to keep the "State" our of churches and let people worship as they choose to or not at all. They didn't say that beliefs had to be censored or hidden at all. They had their very public beliefs BUT the also did not want to prevent others from having and displaying theirs even if different.

The whole concept has been twisted in attempts to silence religious practices completely. The Founders intended on Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion as many push today.

do you think that freedom from religion is important?

I do

man I've met a lot of home schooled kids and it freaks me out how little they actually know about things.. history, the real world, etc

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

do you think that freedom from religion is important?

I do

man I've met a lot of home schooled kids and it freaks me out how little they actually know about things.. history, the real world, etc

Completely agree. This story is so pathetic, it's beyond justification.

Top US home-school texts dismiss evolution | Raw Story

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Completely agree. This story is so pathetic, it's beyond justification.

Top US home-school texts dismiss evolution | Raw Story

haha yeah.. it's crazy

knew plenty of girls that went to Christian Academies as well.. the slanting of their learning is beyond amazing

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by BleedBurgundy

Completely agree. This story is so pathetic, it's beyond justification.

Top US home-school texts dismiss evolution | Raw Story

Sometimes I get them in classes. They are always the ones going, "What? I've never heard that!" to even the most elementary bits of solid knowledge.

[BleedBurgundy]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Sometimes I get them in classes. They are always the ones going, "What? I've never heard that!" to even the most elementary bits of solid knowledge.

Of course, because the answer to every question is "because God made it that way."

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Buster

This was to protect the churches FROM the Government more than to keep religion out of Government. Look at the times it was written and the Church of England being controlled by the Government and forced upon the citizenry.

The Founders were primarily Christians and there are citations of God all throughout written laws, on Government buildings and on currency. They never had any intention to separate Church from State, only to keep the "State" our of churches and let people worship as they choose to or not at all. They didn't say that beliefs had to be censored or hidden at all. They had their very public beliefs BUT the also did not want to prevent others from having and displaying theirs even if different.

The whole concept has been twisted in attempts to silence religious practices completely. The Founders intended on Freedom OF Religion, not Freedom FROM Religion as many push today.

Six to one half dozen. If you legislate based on a set of religious beliefs, then I'm stuck abiding to a set of laws consistent with someone else's beliefs, not my own.

Your line of thinking is devoid of logic.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Schneed10

Six to one half dozen. If you legislate based on a set of religious beliefs, then I'm stuck abiding to a set of laws consistent with someone else's beliefs, not my own.

Your line of thinking is devoid of logic.

Religion.. void of logic?! NO WAY!

It's only the Christians that argue that.. I say let Hindu and Muslims be deeply ingrained, then we'll see if they argue that it's not about the church being part of the state

[Trample the Elderly]

I wonder if they'll include the fact that Woodrow Wilson sent US troops into Russia to help the Whites defeat the Reds?

Perhaps they'll include the fact that when Columbus Discovered America millions of people were already here?

What form of government do the new school books say the US has: A Democracy, Oligarchy, or perhaps a multi-cultural Socialist utopia?

Are the new books going to be in English or Spanglish? Maybe they can write the new books in Mayan, so everyone will know when the world is going to end?

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

I wonder if they'll include the fact that Woodrow Wilson sent US troops into Russia to help the Whites defeat the Reds?

Perhaps they'll include the fact that when Columbus Discovered America millions of people were already here?

What form of government do the new school books say the US has: A Democracy, Oligarchy, or perhaps a multi-cultural Socialist utopia?

Are the new books going to be in English or Spanglish? Maybe they can write the new books in Mayan, so everyone will know when the world is going to end?

Adding to that: Where in ANY textbook, have you seen any documentation of the American Holocaust? Specifically the obliteration of the Native American Indian? The "christian" settlers had no problem murdering, raping and pillaging an entire race of people in the name of "god" ...or heck, maybe it was just a land grab..Either way, you won't find it in any text book.
Also, just for goofs, Paul Revere never rode yelling "The british are coming". That is just one of THOUSANDS of historical fabrications and myths. Its good drama lacking any basis in fact.

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

Adding to that: Where in ANY textbook, have you seen any documentation of the American Holocaust? Specifically the obliteration of the Native American Indian? The "christian" settlers had no problem murdering, raping and pillaging an entire race of people in the name of "god" ...or heck, maybe it was just a land grab..Either way, you won't find it in any text book.
Also, just for goofs, Paul Revere never rode yelling "The british are coming". That is just one of THOUSANDS of historical fabrications and myths. Its good drama lacking any basis in fact.

True, but the Indians weren't exactly the saints who were one with nature that Hollywood paints them as either.

[dblanch66]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

True, but the Indians weren't exactly the saints who were one with nature that Hollywood paints them as either.

:confused: I probably wouldn't be a saint either if some white dude with a gun raped my wife, burned my land, murdered my children and stole my country. But hey, that's me.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

:confused: I probably wouldn't be a saint either if some white dude with a gun raped my wife, burned my land, murdered my children and stole my country. But hey, that's me.

several tribes were far from saints before that

not to say that they deserved it

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by dblanch66

:confused: I probably wouldn't be a saint either if some white dude with a gun raped my wife, burned my land, murdered my children and stole my country. But hey, that's me.

Or cut my living heart out to sacrifice to the sun.