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Old 03-22-2010, 03:01 PM   #1
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This is what sadness and bitterness looks like? Fascinating.
Sadness for my son, your eventual kids, and both our eventual grandkids for having to work through, at a minimum, $ 18T of debt and wrest back individual freedoms from a federal government that has far over-expanded its bounds. Bitterness, maybe a little, because I'll have to strategize better to protect my families income/assets and make sure when my wife and I are gone what we leave to our family is hopefully protected from government confiscation.

Certainly this is not all the Dems or this Administration's fault, this has been brewing for decades. But Obama/Pelosi/Reid have done nothing to stem the tide and turn things around. This Administration and the majority in Congress could've been historic in putting the U.S. financial house in order. My fear is this bill and the current political agenda is the proverbial straw....

As I posted shortly after Obama's election, if he chose to govern from the center (as he campaigned) he could've made his presidency one of the best of the last 100 years. Unfortuntely we're seeing many of the same patterns of the Carter presidency.
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Old 03-22-2010, 03:11 PM   #2
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If VA doesn't win its lawsuit, I'll not pay my Federal taxes. I've already considered different approaches to this. I know several people who don't pay their Federal, just their state. I can no longer support the US for any reason. VA is my nation, not this POS government. Keep on playing stupid Democrat / Republican games. You'll see. Time is ticking.
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If VA doesn't win its lawsuit, I'll not pay my Federal taxes. I've already considered different approaches to this. I know several people who don't pay their Federal, just their state. I can no longer support the US for any reason. VA is my nation, not this POS government. Keep on playing stupid Democrat / Republican games. You'll see. Time is ticking.
VA is your nation? Hold up yall can't keep Redskin Park to yourselves it's not fair.
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If VA doesn't win its lawsuit, I'll not pay my Federal taxes. I've already considered different approaches to this. I know several people who don't pay their Federal, just their state. I can no longer support the US for any reason. VA is my nation, not this POS government. Keep on playing stupid Democrat / Republican games. You'll see. Time is ticking.

The only thing you will accomplish by not paying your Federal Taxes is a prison sentence.

Also, if you want to talk about wasteful spending look at Fairfax County. I know you living in Varina, the virtual mega center of VA, you may not see how wasteful the smaller counties like Fairfax are.
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Old 03-22-2010, 04:27 PM   #5
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The only thing you will accomplish by not paying your Federal Taxes is a prison sentence.

Also, if you want to talk about wasteful spending look at Fairfax County. I know you living in Varina, the virtual mega center of VA, you may not see how wasteful the smaller counties like Fairfax are.
We're not stupid enough to pay 300K for a half an acre of former cow pasture in Varina. We'll sell you one though. You people in NOVA may think you're cosmopolitian because you live in cheap overpriced McMansions. We just think your suckers. I used to build those POS houses for 25K and we'd sell them to Yankees for 350K. Some of them in the West End went for 900k. When the market crashed all of you suckers took a bath. So come on down to Richmond. Oh, and bring your money with you.

Perhaps I'll go to jail? That's up to a jury. Many people don't pay Federal.
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We're not stupid enough to pay 300K for a half an acre of former cow pasture in Varina. We'll sell you one though. You people in NOVA may think you're cosmopolitian because you live in cheap overpriced McMansions. We just think your suckers. I used to build those POS houses for 25K and we'd sell them to Yankees for 350K. Some of them in the West End went for 900k. When the market crashed all of you suckers took a bath. So come on down to Richmond. Oh, and bring your money with you.

Perhaps I'll go to jail? That's up to a jury. Many people don't pay Federal.

No one called you stupid and I don't live in NOVA. Plus, I can also see you are real estate genius. Ever wonder why a studio in New york goes for what it does, it might just might have something to do with it's location.
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No one called you stupid and I don't live in NOVA. Plus, I can also see you are real estate genius. Ever wonder why a studio in New york goes for what it does, it might just might have something to do with it's location.
My bank will not give people loans for property in New York City. That's like throwing money strait down the toilet. I get their calls every once in awhile. They drop NYC like it's supposed to impress the bumkins. You should hear them when I tell them, "Sorry, - - -Mortgage isn't going to give you a loan in NEW YORK CITY" New York, Hawaii, and California might as well be ocean liners with three fish in em each. They're going down buddy.

How is Fairfax not in Northern Virginia? Genius? You're probably right, I'm not a real estate genius. I can build and draft a house to code though. Can you?
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My bank will not give people loans for property in New York City. That's like throwing money strait down the toilet. I get their calls every once in awhile. They drop NYC like it's supposed to impress the bumkins. You should hear them when I tell them, "Sorry, - - -Mortgage isn't going to give you a loan in NEW YORK CITY" New York, Hawaii, and California might as well be ocean liners with three fish in em each. They're going down buddy.

How is Fairfax not in Northern Virginia? Genius? You're probably right, I'm not a real estate genius. I can build and draft a house to code though. Can you?

You missed my point you can build a $50k home in NOVA but if you put it next to a metro station it will be worth some serious money, regardless of the actual cost building it. Location, location, location.

In all honest I am the idiot for trying to hold a conversation with you, after your comments in the Haiti thread I wrote you off and I should have kept it that way. It is ashame you are a Redskins fan I hate to think I have something in common with someone like you.
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If VA doesn't win its lawsuit, I'll not pay my Federal taxes. I've already considered different approaches to this. I know several people who don't pay their Federal, just their state. I can no longer support the US for any reason. VA is my nation, not this POS government. Keep on playing stupid Democrat / Republican games. You'll see. Time is ticking.

You talk a tough game but deep down inside you know that we know that you ain't going to do nothing of the sort. Frankly, you're a tough talking pussycat. meowwww.
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You talk a tough game but deep down inside you know that we know that you ain't going to do nothing of the sort. Frankly, you're a tough talking pussycat. meowwww.
I'm weighing my options. As soon as the Obama signs that POS, VA, FLA, and a few others are filing suit. We already passed a law saying that no Virginian will have to get health insurance if he doesn't want it.

You of all people should know that a lot of people don't pay Federal taxes. You bill yourself as smarter than the average bear. I'm surprised that you didn't know that?
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I'm weighing my options. As soon as the Obama signs that POS, VA, FLA, and a few others are filing suit. We already passed a law saying that no Virginian will have to get health insurance if he doesn't want it.

You of all people should know that a lot of people don't pay Federal taxes. You bill yourself as smarter than the average bear. I'm surprised that you didn't know that?
I'm perfectly fine with States enacting laws to prevent their citizens from having to get healthcare coverage if they don't want to...just don't expect to get that federal cheese. The more southern and mid-western states the better, I'll be happy to keep most of that ~90 billion a year all to ourselves.

TTL, there is quite a difference between people who don't make enough money to pay taxes and people who refuse to pay their taxes because of some gripe with the government. You will pay your taxes, you know it, I know it, and there is nothing you can do about it...even moving out of the country may not set you free from federal taxes. Death and Taxes...life certainties. Good luck with cheating Uncle Sam, you're going to need it.
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Old 03-22-2010, 06:24 PM   #12
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I'm perfectly fine with States enacting laws to prevent their citizens from having to get healthcare coverage if they don't want to...just don't expect to get that federal cheese. The more southern and mid-western states the better, I'll be happy to keep most of that ~90 billion a year all to ourselves.

TTL, there is quite a difference between people who don't make enough money to pay taxes and people who refuse to pay their taxes because of some gripe with the government. You will pay your taxes, you know it, I know it, and there is nothing you can do about it...even moving out of the country may not set you free from federal taxes. Death and Taxes...life certainties. Good luck with cheating Uncle Sam, you're going to need it.
Actually no, you're wrong. Yes I will pay taxes, to the Commonwealth. I have no beef paying for roads and police, etc. There are a lot of people who have beaten the US in court and don't pay. There are also a few in prison. We'll see.
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Actually no, you're wrong. Yes I will pay taxes, to the Commonwealth. I have no beef paying for roads and police, etc. There are a lot of people who have beaten the US in court and don't pay. There are also a few in prison. We'll see.
Very true ....Thousands who earn $200,000+ avoid income tax - USATODAY.com .....The Picket Line — How to Resist the Federal Income Tax by Getting Under the Tax Line ...Home
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