At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

[murphy196]

Originally Posted by warpaint

Way to go big guy thats how you stay on topic. Keep up your insightful comments and you'll gain everyones respect here and in life.

Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.

[celts32]

Originally Posted by murphy196

Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.

I agree with you that Clausen is the better prospect. There are plenty of people who think McCoy will be better though. To each his own. It doesn't necessarily mean that someone who doesn't agree is not as "well informed" as you. And actually since none of us have, met with, worked out or viewed all the coaches tape on these prospects we are all not well informed to some extent.

[warpaint]

Originally Posted by murphy196

Your thoughts on taking McCoy and Tebow over Clausen based on Stats are just absurd. Granted my tone was that of an a-hole, I'm just tired of people that aren't well informed on these guys.

I seen McCoy throughout his college career since I live in The Big 12 Country. McCoy throws a better pass than Clausen. He hits his WR in stride more often the Clausen. I was watching some of Jimmys highlights. The passes he completes makes his WR stop and comeback. The others would get picked by any starting secondary in the league and just cuase he plays from under center more often than most makes him ready to start, doesn't sell me on him. On Tebow I feel they way he changed his delivery in such a short time and WOWED all the scouts shows his commitment to being the best, and with his body of work proves he will bust his but off to acheiving excellence. Hell even Shanny and Allen had to go take a look at him to see what the hype was about.

I know there are hundreds of guys here who can disect this apart and make a case for me being wrong. But this is just my opinion.

[murphy196]

Originally Posted by warpaint

I seen McCoy throughout his college career since I live in The Big 12 Country. McCoy throws a better pass than Clausen. He hits his WR in stride more often the Clausen. I was watching some of Jimmys highlights. The passes he completes makes his WR stop and comeback. The others would get picked by any starting secondary in the league and just cuase he plays from under center more often than most makes him ready to start, doesn't sell me on him. On Tebow I feel they way he changed his delivery in such a short time and WOWED all the scouts shows his commitment to being the best, and with his body of work proves he will bust his but off to acheiving excellence. Hell even Shanny and Allen had to go take a look at him to see what the hype was about.

I know there are hundreds of guys here who can disect this apart and make a case for me being wrong. But this is just my opinion.

Look man, here is the deal. Clausen throws his passes, so his receivers can catch the ball. It's all about knowing your receivers and them knowing their QB. McCoy has a weak arm even before the injury, will probably be worse now. Tebow was a winner in College (so was Charlie Ward and a cast of others), but he just isn't an NFL QB. All of the experts say if you draft him you shouldn't expect him to even attempt to start for 2-3 yrs. If he was there in say the 6th, I would say we should take a chance, but honestly he's not a pro QB. He's a great guy, good athlete, just not an NFL QB.
I'm glad Tebow has changed his delivery and worked on his game, but it's much easier to change your delivery without a 300 lb guys running full speed trying to kill you. When panic sets in, he will revert back to his old bad habits.
Clausen is the most NFL ready QB that has come out of college since Peyton Manning. I think it will be a huge mistake if we pass this guy up at #4 and I will be EXTREMELY pissed if we fucking draft Tebow with our 2nd round pick!!! The opportunity to draft a franchise QB rarely comes around, I hope we don't screw this up!!