At what point would you Trade Up to get Jimmy Clausen?

[Defensewins]

Originally Posted by TrustinGibbs

As a Notre Dame fan who watched every single down Clausen played I must say some of you are under rating him.

Also blaming Clausen for Notre Dame's struggles these past few season is ludicrous since Clausen didn't play a single down on defense and that defense under Charlie Wies was pathetic and absolutely the reason why the Irish sucked. Clausen can make all of the NFL throws and due to playing behind a pathetic offensive line at ND and getting hammered for three years is one tough kid who is very durable(unlike Bradford who seems to be made of glass)

Now for the draft....I wouldn't take Clausen at #4 not because he isn't worth that pick but because the Skins OFFENSIVE LINEMEN above all else. If he dropped to us in the 2nd round I'd take him before they announced whom was on the clock but I wouldn't trade away any other picks to get up to get anyone because Curato/Snyder killed this franchise by trading away picks for the past decade plus.

It is funny how the anti-Clause group blame Clausen for the losses and the pro-Clausen group completely absolves him. Somewhere in the middle I think is fair. He does have some responsibility.
The great QB's like Peyton Manning on some under-man-ed Colts teams or Ben Roethlisburger when at Miami of Ohio, won and even upsetting stronger teams so your argument is kind of weak.
Notre Dame is not a weak sister that has no top recruits show up at their door. So when ND loses to Navy, Connecticut or a bad Michigan team in one season, I think that stink has to be partly associated to Clausen. I don't blame Clausen when playing a true powerhouse team like USC, but losing to to other weak teams is not something you can not completely absolve Clausen.