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[Pocket$ $traight]

This seems to give the coaches some leverage over these two players. For example, if they tell Godzilla to be NT and he balks, they can say "You are the NT and if you don't like it buy yourself out and go somewhere else". I don't see this happening but at least they have some options.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

This seems to give the coaches some leverage over these two players. For example, if they tell Godzilla to be NT and he balks, they can say "You are the NT and if you don't like it buy yourself out and go somewhere else". I don't see this happening but at least they have some options.

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

Even if we still have Haynesworth, if McCoy or Suh are there at 4 we should only consider two options:

1) Trading down (we'll have tons of suitors)
2) Drafting Suh or McCoy

Anything else would require reaching too far to fill a need IMO.

So i have a hypothetical situation for everyone. Lets say

where the Rams took Bradford, the Lions took Okung, and a team (perhaps Buffalo), fearing that we'd take Clausen, traded with Tampa Bay to draft the increasingly overrated QB. With both Suh and McCoy on the board, we might not end up with any offers to trade down and we'd be stuck at 4.

Who would you draft?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

Even if we still have Haynesworth, if McCoy or Suh are there at 4 we should only consider two options:

1) Trading down (we'll have tons of suitors)
2) Drafting Suh or McCoy

Anything else would require reaching too far to fill a need IMO.

So i have a hypothetical situation for everyone. Lets say

where the Rams took Bradford, the Lions took Okung, and a team (perhaps Buffalo), fearing that we'd take Clausen, traded with Tampa Bay to draft the increasingly overrated QB. With both Suh and McCoy on the board, we might not end up with any offers to trade down and we'd be stuck at 4.

Who would you draft?

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Are the options just Suh and McCoy in your question?

no, any player... except cj spiller

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

no, any player... except cj spiller

Whatcha gonna do now Smooty?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by 53Fan

Whatcha gonna do now Smooty?

Find the loophole...and suggest we draft Clifford Spiller Jr.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by BigHairedAristocrat

no, any player... except cj spiller

Hater

Good question. I know OT is a need but I wouldn't really reach for Williams, Bulaga, or Brown. Which I think we would be doing if we took any of them at 4 (though my own mock still has us taking TW at 4). I'm all for BPA in the first round, but within reason. Within reason meaning I wouldn't, for example, take Eric Berry unless Landry is gone. So I guess the same philosophy would apply then to Suh and McCoy.

So I guess I'd say...Rolando McLain? No, probably not even him at #4

Tough question

[53Fan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hater

Good question. I know OT is a need but I wouldn't really reach for Williams, Bulaga, or Brown. Which I think we would be doing if we took any of them at 4 (though my own mock still has us taking TW at 4). I'm all for BPA in the first round, but within reason. Within reason meaning I wouldn't, for example, take Eric Berry unless Landry is gone. So I guess the same philosophy would apply then to Suh and McCoy.

So I guess I'd say...Rolando McLain? No, probably not even him at #4

Tough question

Just curious, would you consider Joe Haden, taking into account Hall's renegotiated contract? Or do you feel Barnes has got us covered in case we need him?

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Hater

Good question. I know OT is a need but I wouldn't really reach for Williams, Bulaga, or Brown. Which I think we would be doing if we took any of them at 4 (though my own mock still has us taking TW at 4). I'm all for BPA in the first round, but within reason. Within reason meaning I wouldn't, for example, take Eric Berry unless Landry is gone. So I guess the same philosophy would apply then to Suh and McCoy.

So I guess I'd say...Rolando McLain? No, probably not even him at #4

Tough question

very tough indeed. i think Suh is the best player in the draft. With or without Haynesworth he would fill a need - just not one of the top 3 most pressing needs we have at the moment (LT, RT, and QB) - so i would still have reservations about taking him. Okung, Bradford, or Clausen could hypothetically fill one of those top three needs (if shanahan was sold on clausen or bradford of course). while I dont like Bradford or Clausen all that much, i could eventually understand the picks, because of the importance of the position. okung is definitely the best tackle in the draft. however, as many here have stated - there's not that huge of a drop-off between him and the next group of tackles in the draft.

essentially, there really isnt anyone i would feel 100% good about taking at #4. but theres about a dozen guys i'd be perfectly happy taking at different places between 8 and 25. basically, trading down is - by far - the most attractive option for me at this point. if we could trade down somewhere between 8 and 25 and pick up a 2nd round pick in 2010 or even a 1st rounder in 2011, i'd be thrilled and not for a second regret passing up any bradford, okung, clausen, mccoy or suh.

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

So does this pave the way to take Suh/McCoy at #4 assuming one of them is there and Bradford and/or Okung are not? Because all this time I've been thinking, and I kind of still do, there's no point really in taking either of those guys. But now...makes you wonder

I would say we certainly aren't pigeonholed into a pick now. That being said, we will probably take the safety... ;-)