2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

Any word on who was there from the Skins?

Don't know

[CultBrennan59]

CB Deon Beasley (5-foot-9 5/8, 180 pounds) ran 4.47 and 4.46 in the 40-yard dash.

DT Lamarr Houston (6-2 7/8, 300) will keep his 40 times from the combine.

LB Sergio Kindle (6-2 7/8, 249) will keep his 40 times from the combine.

WR Jordan Shipley (5-11 1/2, 187) ran 4.54 and 4.56 in the 40. (Side note: When asked about Shipley’s performance, Redskins offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan said, tongue in cheek, “I don’t like him, because he’s doing everything here that I had hoped to do.” Shanahan played 24 games at Texas as a wide receiver.

G Charlie Tanner (6-3 7/8, 305) ran 5.20 and 5.12 in the 40.

T Adam Ulatoski (6-6, 302) ran 5.58 and 5.56 in the 40.

LB Roddrick Muckelroy (6-1 5/8, 234) ran 4.73 and 4.75 in the 40.

Editor’s note: We reported earlier that Ulatoski’s 40-yard dash times were 4.58 and 4.56. However, those times were incorrect.

– Gil Brandt

[SmootSmack]

That aligns much closer with his 5.5 combine 40

[CultBrennan59]

Kyle Shanahan was in attendance today at texas's pro day

[CultBrennan59]

Terrence Cody has a visit to the redskins coming up

[The Goat]

Does anybody realistically expect Okung to fall to us? Both Detroit and Tampa need youth at LT and he's the best in the draft. And at 306 lbs he moves very well and shows the ability to play in just about any scheme (though it sounds like he'll be best suited for zone-blocking).

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Does anybody realistically expect Okung to fall to us? Both Detroit and Tampa need youth at LT and he's the best in the draft. And at 306 lbs he moves very well and shows the ability to play in just about any scheme (though it sounds like he'll be best suited for zone-blocking).

Tampa is in the same boat as St. Louis in that they've spent a lot of early picks on their line, or in Tampa's case the O-Line. Trueblood and Penn are one of the better pair of bookends in the league. They also have Davin Joesph, Jeff Faine, and Jeremy Zutah on the interior. If anything what they really seem to want now is a difference maker on the D-Line. Someone that can bring the same sort of level of play to the defense that Warren Sapp brought for all those years.

Detroit on the other hand as far as Tackle is concerned has a reliable type in Jeff Backus and a recent first round pick invested in Gosder Cherillus. They also have a head coach in Swartz who saw first hand what a guy like Albert Haynesworth can do for a defense. Of course maybe they want better protection for Stafford but it's certainly possible that they could pass on Okung. On the other hand I don't see Tampa really considering him at all.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Does anybody realistically expect Okung to fall to us? Both Detroit and Tampa need youth at LT and he's the best in the draft. And at 306 lbs he moves very well and shows the ability to play in just about any scheme (though it sounds like he'll be best suited for zone-blocking).

Tampa definitely will take a DT, or trade down, but there is no way they leave this draft without a stud DT. Detroit does have a need to get younger, but not a dire need. Their LT has started every game for 9 years, and is still serviceable. What they NEED is interior linemen. And there will be very good ones in the 2nd round. But there won't be a stud DT like Suh or McCoy, and Schwartz knows what a stud DT can do in his system. The Most likely way for Okung to be gone is if the Rams don't take Bradford, in which case a spot opens up for some strange things and maybe Okung and Bradford disappear. As it stands now the top 4 picks in order will most probably be
Bradford
McCoy (or Suh, but McCoy is has been more consistent so I think he goes here)
Suh
Okung

I think the time lag between the combine and draft just makes the talking heads have to fill up space with all the various combinations, but Detroit and Tampa both need and understand the need for an impact player at DT.

[The Goat]

Dirtbag and CRedskins thanks for the input. You guys are totally right on Tampa, the consensus is their FO is thrilled to have a shot at Suh or McCoy or possibly a choice between the two. Detroit is harder to read. Stafford took quite a beating last year no? If interior lineman were the real problem they could look to stick Okung at LT and shift things around a bit. The Schwarts factor is def something to consider though.

...I feel better knowing we could get Okung.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Dirtbag and CRedskins thanks for the input. You guys are totally right on Tampa, the consensus is their FO is thrilled to have a shot at Suh or McCoy or possibly a choice between the two. Detroit is harder to read. Stafford took quite a beating last year no? If interior lineman were the real problem they could look to stick Okung at LT and shift things around a bit. The Schwarts factor is def something to consider though.

...I feel better knowing we could get Okung.

That's exactly the fear with Detroit, they could easily take Okung, move Backus to G and shore up that side of the line. There was a report that they were looking at an RFA G, I think from Seattle?, and if they did that I doubt they would also spend their first pick on the OL. All that said, I really believe that Schwartz wanted and got Van De Bosch(sp?) DE from Tennessee because they intend on getting a monster in the middle and he wants to re-create the Tennessee DLine. Remember he was at the DE's house AT midnight, so he wants his Dline functioning right.

[GusFrerotte]

We could get Campbell or the guy from USC if Okung is taken. A lot of nice O line talent this draft!!!

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

We could get Campbell or the guy from USC if Okung is taken. A lot of nice O line talent this draft!!!

True but those other blokes aren't great value at 4...now if we traded down, still got one of em, and another 1st rd pick it would be worth it.

How likely is it Shanny/Allen reverse our trend and start stockpiling future picks in a tradedown scenario? I wouldn't mind it personally...we are truly in rebuild mode our of necessity.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by The Goat

True but those other blokes aren't great value at 4...now if we traded down, still got one of em, and another 1st rd pick it would be worth it.

How likely is it Shanny/Allen reverse our trend and start stockpiling future picks in a tradedown scenario? I wouldn't mind it personally...we are truly in rebuild mode our of necessity.

This FO is so hard to read, I would be happy with a trade with SF, it's got to be plausible, but I don't know what player SF would covet at 4 to make it worth their while. As for Campbell at 4, that would be a huge over reach, and almost definitely a Heyward Bey type miscalculation. I think Trent Williams might be worth it at 4, but if Okung, and Bradford are both gone, our FO ought to be dealing that 4th pick for whoever wants the remaining DT, or take the DT ourselves, and reshuffle.

[Redskin Jim]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

This FO is so hard to read, I would be happy with a trade with SF, it's got to be plausible, but I don't know what player SF would covet at 4 to make it worth their while. As for Campbell at 4, that would be a huge over reach, and almost definitely a Heyward Bey type miscalculation. I think Trent Williams might be worth it at 4, but if Okung, and Bradford are both gone, our FO ought to be dealing that 4th pick for whoever wants the remaining DT, or take the DT ourselves, and reshuffle.

Well put, I agree on all points CRedskinsRule. Especially on not over reaching @#4, if Bradford, and Okung are gone with no trade partner, I wouldn't be opposed to taking one of the stud DT's.

[Dirtbag59]

Done Deal - Eagles Send McNabb to Raiders In Exchange for Picks - ESPN

About time.