Prospects for Shanahans offense/Hasletts 3-4 D

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by The Goat

We should have the best d-line in football if this scenario plays out. I don't know what that's worth when you're OTs are among the very worst in football. I mean right now we have a very decent dline (worse than last year's since Griff is gone) but an absolutely terrible oline.

You don't think Kemo is an upgrade over Griff?

He is assuming Griff's spot on the injury report.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

You don't think Kemo is an upgrade over Griff?

He is assuming Griff's spot on the injury report.

Griff was the 2nd best DT on the roster last year behind Al. Dude was extremely stout against the run. Kemo is only an upgrade if 1) he's completely healthy and 2) we run the 3-4.

Griff may not have been able to maintain he play however. He's signed nowhere and I believe retirement is just around the corner, so even had we kept Griff (instead of getting Kemo) our dline in '09 > '10. I think unless we take one of the two top DTs at 4 or get really lucky later in the draft our dline takes a step backward this year (I'm hoping for a little luck cuz we NEED LT far more than a DT).

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by The Goat

Griff was the 2nd best DT on the roster last year behind Al. Dude was extremely stout against the run. Kemo is only an upgrade if 1) he's completely healthy and 2) we run the 3-4.

Griff may not have been able to maintain he play however. He's signed nowhere and I believe retirement is just around the corner, so even had we kept Griff (instead of getting Kemo) our dline in '09 > '10. I think unless we take one of the two top DTs at 4 or get really lucky later in the draft our dline takes a step backward this year (I'm hoping for a little luck cuz we NEED LT far more than a DT).

I don't know. I loved Griff, don't get me wrong, but he hasn't been a force since '04 and '05. Now Kemo's injury status is key, but he is a monster. He was on a pretty good Panthers D a couple of years ago. He was pretty good in front of Ray Ray too.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

I don't know. I loved Griff, don't get me wrong, but he hasn't been a force since '04 and '05. Now Kemo's injury status is key, but he is a monster. He was on a pretty good Panthers D a couple of years ago. He was pretty good in front of Ray Ray too.

Yeah I stand corrected. Of the DTs on last year's roster (excluding Al) Golston had the most tackles at 34, then Zoe w/ 24 and Griff w/ 22. Interestingly all three guys had 2 sacks and 1 FF.

It's really interesting Zoe is moving to LB? I mean there's really nobody to play LDE behind the aging/ageless Daniels and it seems Zoe would be a solid starter there. He's a bit undersized as a 4-3 DT but I think I bit hefty as a 3-4 LB...i just would have thought the coaches would like at him and think LDE!

[Dirtbag59]

Since no one has said this I want to be the first one. BRING BACK VINNY AND ZORN!!!! THE FRANCHISE IS NOTHING WITHOUT THOSE TWO!!!