Sam Bradford's pro day workout should clear up top of NFL draft

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I hope that Bradford tells the Rams, "I have always hated the Rams and I don't think anything will change that. So I will insist on a $500 mil. contract and hold out as long as it takes to get it."

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.

Actually it makes a lot of sense if, as some have surmised, Bradford would prefer to play for Shanahan rather than for the Rams. Although the words were different, Eli Manning did something similar to San Diego a few years ago: he made it clear that he did not want to play for or be drafted by the Chargers.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Players usually hold out for more money. Dropping to #4 gives you less leverage on arguing for more money, so this makes no sense.

Even if Bradford were to drop to us, I believe he would use the QB position and try to leverage it with us to get a good payday. He may also believe Washington will pay more simply because of the different FO's and ownership. I certainly don't think Washington would ever see a holdout, but the Rams could.

I also think the Rams will want a deal done pre-draft, if Bradford seriously wants to wait that could help him drop. Not necessarily to us though, because Mike Holmgrem might jump up for Bradford.

[BigHairedAristocrat]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think (know?) Bradford would rather play for the Redskins. But I don't see him getting past the Rams either. I don't know what we can offer. I know they want Montgomery, but Campbell, #4, Montgomery? You have to offer more.

Maybe throw in another couple of 2011 picks, get Atogwe as well. Trade Landry to New Orleans for their 1st rounder. Get a OL there, hopefully keep our 2nd round pick, get another OL there?

You think New Orleans is even interested in Landry? GG likes him that much?

[GTripp0012]

You know, if the Rams could get multiple first round picks and at least one day two pick from us to have Clausen (with the #4 pick) instead of Bradford, I'm not sure how they could possibly talk themselves into thinking Bradford is worth more than that package.

I also think Gil Brandt is really out on a much weaker limb than it appears, though no one with any clout (as in, someone who is not me) is going to call him on it because of who he is.

If what he knows is that Shanahan has a hard-on for Bradford, well, I mean, how many players do you think Shanahan has passed on over the course of his career that he felt could have been complete franchise-changers? Probably one or two a season. So he's been around the block before, and knows that the picks he would trade to deliver Bradford would just end up being his future franchise changers.

[ChickenMonkey]

This Sam Bradford Pro Day sounds exactly like 2005..Alex Smith #1 overall

QB Alex Smith had a tremendous workout in Salt Lake City, making his case to be the first player selected in the draft. Smith threw for 45 minutes and was lights out. His performance was so good, those in attendance gave the Utah passer an ovation at the workouts completion.

Guess who went second all the way down at #24 if the first round???

Arron Rogers is one of the draft's most complete quarterbacks, but he doesn't have prototypical size. He's listed at 6-2, but is probably more like 6-1, possibly shorter. There are also concerns that he could be a system quarterback coming out of a QB friendly offense at CAL
(Sounds alot like Jimmy Clausen)

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

This Sam Bradford Pro Day sounds exactly like 2005..Alex Smith #1 overall

QB Alex Smith had a tremendous workout in Salt Lake City, making his case to be the first player selected in the draft. Smith threw for 45 minutes and was lights out. His performance was so good, those in attendance gave the Utah passer an ovation at the workouts completion.

Guess who went second all the way down at #24 if the first round???

Arron Rogers is one of the draft's most complete quarterbacks, but he doesn't have prototypical size. He's listed at 6-2, but is probably more like 6-1, possibly shorter. There are also concerns that he could be a system quarterback coming out of a QB friendly offense at CAL
(Sounds alot like Jimmy Clausen)

The Aaron Rodgers/Jeff Tedford situation reminds me a little of Clausen's situation with Weiss. People were hesitant to draft Aaron Rodgers because of previous pro QB's that came from Tedfords system (Harrington, Boller, Akili Smith but mainly Boller for this comparison). These days it's not hard to find people trying to make comparisons between Clausen and Quinn and though the jury is out on Quinn it showed that just playing in a pro style offense under Weiss and having great intangibles doesn't guarantee success.

Still it is a pro offense and I stand by the statement that we have possibly the best QB coaches in the league (Norv Turner is also up there) and I think if they're comfortable enough with Clausen we'll be more then fine.

Still interesting comparison with the 2005 draft. Spread QB vs Pro QB and the concerns of playing for a QB guru.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The Aaron Rodgers/Jeff Tedford situation reminds me a little of Clausen's situation with Weiss. People were hesitant to draft Aaron Rodgers because of previous pro QB's that came from Tedfords system (Harrington, Boller, Akili Smith but mainly Boller for this comparison). These days it's not hard to find people trying to make comparisons between Clausen and Quinn and though the jury is out on Quinn it showed that just playing in a pro style offense under Weiss and having great intangibles doesn't guarantee success.

Still it is a pro offense and I stand by the statement that we have possibly the best QB coaches in the league (Norv Turner is also up there).

Good metaphor. Simile? Someone who's good at English, help.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Good metaphor. Simile? Someone who's good at English, help.

Ha ha, this coming from a guy who makes me feel small, vocabulary wise in half the post I read.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Ha ha, this coming from a guy who makes me feel small, vocabulary wise in half the post I read.

Well, thanks for reading quick enough assume prepositions that I often miss...

...did you catch that?

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

The Aaron Rodgers/Jeff Tedford situation reminds me a little of Clausen's situation with Weiss. People were hesitant to draft Aaron Rodgers because of previous pro QB's that came from Tedfords system (Harrington, Boller, Akili Smith but mainly Boller for this comparison). These days it's not hard to find people trying to make comparisons between Clausen and Quinn and though the jury is out on Quinn it showed that just playing in a pro style offense under Weiss and having great intangibles doesn't guarantee success.

Still it is a pro offense and I stand by the statement that we have possibly the best QB coaches in the league (Norv Turner is also up there) and I think if they're comfortable enough with Clausen we'll be more then fine.

Nice post. The part in bold is a good reminder this time of year and most especially because of who we have calling the shots at Redskins Park. I don't think there's any reason to assume Bruce and Mike have fallen in love w/ Bradford the way some have. Like the excerpt above shows, so many kids have looked like future champions leading up to the draft only wallow in mediocrity forever thereafter. My intuition is our FO has a solid risk/reward strategy for us.

[MonkFan4Life]

Originally Posted by ChickenMonkey

This Sam Bradford Pro Day sounds exactly like 2005..Alex Smith #1 overall

QB Alex Smith had a tremendous workout in Salt Lake City, making his case to be the first player selected in the draft. Smith threw for 45 minutes and was lights out. His performance was so good, those in attendance gave the Utah passer an ovation at the workouts completion.

Guess who went second all the way down at #24 if the first round???

Arron Rogers is one of the draft's most complete quarterbacks, but he doesn't have prototypical size. He's listed at 6-2, but is probably more like 6-1, possibly shorter. There are also concerns that he could be a system quarterback coming out of a QB friendly offense at CAL
(Sounds alot like Jimmy Clausen)

Do you guys know who WE drafted that year ?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by MonkFan4Life

Do you guys know who WE drafted that year ?

Can't remember. You should clue us all in.

[GTripp0012]

I'd say Aaron Rodgers is probably the very best case scenario for Clausen. If you pair him with elite receiving talent and a good (if aging) offensive line, you might have a shot at getting that.

With that in mind, I'll point out that Rodgers' perception among the league will never be higher that it is right now, and he'll fall considerably when the Packers miss the playoffs and he doesn't make the pro bowl. The change won't be in him though, it will be in his teammates.

[CultBrennan59]

One respected talent evaluator can imagine Sam Bradford with Redskins - Peter King - SI.com

[CultBrennan59]

^^Carter and Landry would get New Orleans second but I dunno about they're first. Throw in Rocky and it would.