Jared Gaither for our second round pick?

[JoeRedskin]

He is clearly better than anyone on our current roster. But I am hearing the same things OTM mentions about him. If we draft a LT at 4 and then sign Gaither to a low money long term contract with the understanding that he will be a RT, I wouldn't lambast the team.

Given his work ethic issues, just not sure he is a guy I would want on the team. For all the reasons mentioned by OTM and SS, I definitely don't want him as our long term LT.

Again, yes he is better than anyone we've got - but is he better than anyone we could potentially get in the draft? Does he fit in Shanny's system? Can we get him for a reasonable RT salary long term? I think the answers to all these questions are "no", so I wouldn't make the trade.

[Audi]

The reason draft picks are valuable is because you can get players for cheap. The Ravens had Casey Rabach, Jason Brown, Jared Gaither, all players the Redskins seem to be coveting, and all players that were taken with low draft picks.

We should do the same. We should only trade for established players if they are the missing piece, not to fill random holes.

For example, I believe the Vikings traded some pretty premium draft picks for Jared Allen... But they already had a solid defensive line that was lacking the pass-rushing monster.

If we had a solid offensive line and just needed a LT, I'd be all for it. But that's not the case here.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by Audi

The reason draft picks are valuable is because you can get players for cheap. The Ravens had Casey Rabach, Jason Brown, Jared Gaither, all players the Redskins seem to be coveting, and all players that were taken with low draft picks.

We should do the same. We should only trade for established players if they are the missing piece, not to fill random holes.

For example, I believe the Vikings traded some pretty premium draft picks for Jared Allen... But they already had a solid defensive line that was lacking the pass-rushing monster.

If we had a solid offensive line and just needed a LT, I'd be all for it. But that's not the case here.

What are you talking about? We've got Stephon Heyer, Mike Williams and Casey Rabach!!! 3 potential pro bowlers. :-)

[Audi]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

What are you talking about? We've got Stephon Heyer, Mike Williams and Casey Rabach!!! 3 potential pro bowlers. :-)

The funny thing is, you know how some people say the quarterback gets too much credit and also too much blame?

I think the same applies even moreso to the offensive line. If we were to have Peyton Manning on our team, I wouldn't be surprised to see those guys earn Pro Bowl berths.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Audi

The funny thing is, you know how some people say the quarterback gets too much credit and also too much blame?

I think the same applies even moreso to the offensive line. If we were to have Peyton Manning on our team, I wouldn't be surprised to see those guys earn Pro Bowl berths.

Peyton Manning, Tom Brady and Drew Brees will make any offensive line look good. These guys are elite QBs in their primes. Any other QB, needs good offensive line play, hell how do you think Brett Favre was injury free throughout the season?

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Audi

The funny thing is, you know how some people say the quarterback gets too much credit and also too much blame?

I think the same applies even moreso to the offensive line. If we were to have Peyton Manning on our team, I wouldn't be surprised to see those guys earn Pro Bowl berths.

Yes sir!

Our offensive line will improve so much guys! look at that Saints vs. Redskins game, why did our team click all of a sudden? Because we got the early lead and had something to fight for. That's why we have coaches to help motivate every player and for this to happen game 1 through 16. Don't compare last year to this year just yet, these guys will be hungry and a guy like Jared Gaither would help a lot but not as much as potentially hitting a hungry young LT who will listen to everything our coaches have to say.
But then again my guess is as good as anyone's right

[skinsfan69]

Baltimore is one of the best run teams in the NFL. If they're trying to get rid of this guy then something is up. He's better than anyone we have but we don't need anymore guys that don't want to practice/ poor work habits. Let's draft our own o-linemen and let the new staff mold him.

[dmek25]

if the guy is better then anyone we have, who cares how he practices? but i agree with the ravens being well run. maybe that should raise some flags

[tootergray34]

man i just dont' see this happening...it would be pretty nice though. Isn't this guy their anchor? Like their best OLineman? I'm kind of behind on news other than Redskins :0

[IrMitchell]

Yeah, look at a guy like Joe Thomas. One of the elite LT's in the league yet their team isn't far behind us in draft picks. I know if I was a GM/HC I would take tackles only past round 2 and let the coaches do their job.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Yeah, look at a guy like Joe Thomas. One of the elite LT's in the league yet their team isn't far behind us in draft picks. I know if I was a GM/HC I would take tackles only past round 2 and let the coaches do their job.

Well that team has been horrible mismanaged just like our team. They also picked up Brady Quinn in the first round and look how that worked out?

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well that team has been horrible mismanaged just like our team. They also picked up Brady Quinn in the first round and look how that worked out?

True, but the point is they had faith that the 2nd or 3rd pick (can't remember when he was taken) would help their team. If anything they got worse.

Drafting Roger Saffold in the second round or drafting Russell Okung in the first in my eyes would have the same impact come next year. Let's get Clausen or Berry and get a star player for years to come that will get credit for playing well and make them play better.
Dont' get me wrong I have nothing but respect for the offensive line, but it's a sad reality that they get no credit from the media and fans until the offseason.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

True, but the point is they had faith that the 2nd or 3rd pick (can't remember when he was taken) would help their team. If anything they got worse.

Drafting Roger Saffold in the second round or drafting Russell Okung in the first in my eyes would have the same impact come next year. Let's get Clausen or Berry and get a star player for years to come that will get credit for playing well and make them play better.
Dont' get me wrong I have nothing but respect for the offensive line, but it's a sad reality that they get no credit from the media and fans until the offseason.

Dude your talking my language. If we could get a young, giant vet tackle and the best player available it would be ideal. I would note that while we are saying gaither only gave up one sack last season, he was OWNED by a then healthy Dwight Freeney in the playoffs.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

True, but the point is they had faith that the 2nd or 3rd pick (can't remember when he was taken) would help their team. If anything they got worse.

Drafting Roger Saffold in the second round or drafting Russell Okung in the first in my eyes would have the same impact come next year. Let's get Clausen or Berry and get a star player for years to come that will get credit for playing well and make them play better.
Dont' get me wrong I have nothing but respect for the offensive line, but it's a sad reality that they get no credit from the media and fans until the offseason.

Drafting BOTH of them would be the best for our team.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Buster

Drafting BOTH of them would be the best for our team.

This is another smart option. With one problem, we have to trust Jason Campbell who again doesn't get respect until the offseason.
I'm not trying to cause any arguement, but just saying when I think back to games from this past season and further back, I remember a quarterback who didn't fit anything the offense tried to do and made horrible decisions and when there was a good open receiver he would throw it short, because of bad instincts.
Let's hope Mike can work his magic on him, because I wouldn't be surprised also if this option plays out.