2010 NFL Off-Season Rumors and Reports (Week 4)

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yeah, April 22 cannot come quickly enough! Three more weeks of hype, speculation, and wild guesses.

Speaking of wild guesses, what about Berry, JC, Carter, and next year's #2 for Bradford?

I still find it funny that all these people are coming up with these Vinny'esque trades for skill position players. Maybe Cerrato should have never left in this case.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still find it funny that all these people are coming up with these Vinny'esque trades for skill position players. Maybe Cerrato should have never left in this case.

I understand your point. I was just trying to think through Jason Reid's reasoning. I'm not sure the connection he makes between drafting Berry and trading for Bradford is clear.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

I understand your point. I was just trying to think through Jason Reid's reasoning. I'm not sure the connection he makes between drafting Berry and trading for Bradford is clear.

It sounds more like a swap, they draft Bradford, we draft Berry and then we exchange them?

Ok maybe not, this is what happened in the Rivers/Manning swap:

"The top pick of the draft hasn't been traded since 2004, when San Diego shipped Eli Manning to the New York Giants. The cost was high then -- first-round pick Phillip Rivers, plus a third-rounder in 2004 and first- and fifth-round picks in 2005. You can bet that if the Rams are listening to offers for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, the asking price will be similarly high. (The Redskins hold the No. 4 overall pick, the same one the Giants held in '04 when they traded for Manning.)"

That's a lot of f'ing picks.

[Audi]

Can anyone think of some notable trades in the top layer of the draft for a QB?

Phillip Rivers and Eli Manning come to mind, of course.

Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.

Mark Sanchez? Jury's out on that one.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Audi

Can anyone think of some notable trades in the top layer of the draft for a QB?

Phillip Rivers and Eli Manning come to mind, of course.

Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.

Mark Sanchez? Jury's out on that one.

Unless their running game falls apart, Mark Sanchez has the chance of being successful with the Jets for years to come.

[Dirtbag59]

Originally Posted by Audi

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Michael Vick and LaDainian Tomlinson... I know a lot of people don't like Michael Vick, but he DID help the Falcons win a lot of games.

I'll concede that point. Michael Vick really did a lot for the Falcons early in his career. However he was a little faster and D-Coordinators outside of Tampa didn't know how to gameplan for him. Once they learned how to force him to stay back and pass he became average. If Vick ever wants to be a great NFL QB he's going to have to evolve and learn to read NFL defenses, at least at a level much more advanced then he is now.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

It sounds more like a swap, they draft Bradford, we draft Berry and then we exchange them?

Ok maybe not, this is what happened in the Rivers/Manning swap:

"The top pick of the draft hasn't been traded since 2004, when San Diego shipped Eli Manning to the New York Giants. The cost was high then -- first-round pick Phillip Rivers, plus a third-rounder in 2004 and first- and fifth-round picks in 2005. You can bet that if the Rams are listening to offers for the No. 1 pick in this year's draft, the asking price will be similarly high. (The Redskins hold the No. 4 overall pick, the same one the Giants held in '04 when they traded for Manning.)"

That's a lot of f'ing picks.

Yes. Hence my attempt to inject players such as JC or Carter into the deal, to lessen the draft pick blow.

Hey, I'm not saying that we should do it. I'm just trying to explore someone else's scenario. Since the Lambs need a QB, it seems reasonable to include JC in a projected deal. And if Shanny is madly in love with Bradford, I'd rather him give up Carter than a draft choice.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Yes. Hence my attempt to inject players such as JC or Carter into the deal, to lessen the draft pick blow.

Hey, I'm not saying that we should do it. I'm just trying to explore someone else's scenario. Since the Lambs need a QB, it seems reasonable to include JC in a projected deal. And if Shanny is madly in love with Bradford, I'd rather him give up Carter than a draft choice.

If the Rams are smart, they would ask for picks. No one is going to give up a number one for a two picks and players.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

If the Rams are smart, they would ask for picks. No one is going to give up a number one for a two picks and players.

That may be true.

I am a fan of Bradford but I'm not sure that I am a fan of giving away the farm to draft him, especially since it is easy to just take Okung and feel satisfied with the pick.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by Lotus

That may be true.

I am a fan of Bradford but I'm not sure that I am a fan of giving away the farm to draft him, especially since it is easy to just take Okung and feel satisfied with the pick.

Well a lot of impatient fans would give up the farm for Bradford. I hope that our FO shows some discipline on this matter.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I still find it funny that all these people are coming up with these Vinny'esque trades for skill position players. Maybe Cerrato should have never left in this case.

Hahahaha well said man. Most skins fans would like nothing but big names players I see.
Here's what everyone should consider, in 5 years when Eric Berry, Russell Okung, Suh, McCoy,etc. have all potentially become star players at their respectful positions everyone will understand why you don't make stupid trades like this.
Let the Rams take Bradford and try to change the worst team in the league into anything past a 4-12 team. It juts won't happen and maybe in 3-4 years we can consider picking him up after his other shoulder get's damaged.