Jared Gaither for our second round pick?

[IrMitchell]

Yeah, look at a guy like Joe Thomas. One of the elite LT's in the league yet their team isn't far behind us in draft picks. I know if I was a GM/HC I would take tackles only past round 2 and let the coaches do their job.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Yeah, look at a guy like Joe Thomas. One of the elite LT's in the league yet their team isn't far behind us in draft picks. I know if I was a GM/HC I would take tackles only past round 2 and let the coaches do their job.

Well that team has been horrible mismanaged just like our team. They also picked up Brady Quinn in the first round and look how that worked out?

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Well that team has been horrible mismanaged just like our team. They also picked up Brady Quinn in the first round and look how that worked out?

True, but the point is they had faith that the 2nd or 3rd pick (can't remember when he was taken) would help their team. If anything they got worse.

Drafting Roger Saffold in the second round or drafting Russell Okung in the first in my eyes would have the same impact come next year. Let's get Clausen or Berry and get a star player for years to come that will get credit for playing well and make them play better.
Dont' get me wrong I have nothing but respect for the offensive line, but it's a sad reality that they get no credit from the media and fans until the offseason.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

True, but the point is they had faith that the 2nd or 3rd pick (can't remember when he was taken) would help their team. If anything they got worse.

Drafting Roger Saffold in the second round or drafting Russell Okung in the first in my eyes would have the same impact come next year. Let's get Clausen or Berry and get a star player for years to come that will get credit for playing well and make them play better.
Dont' get me wrong I have nothing but respect for the offensive line, but it's a sad reality that they get no credit from the media and fans until the offseason.

Dude your talking my language. If we could get a young, giant vet tackle and the best player available it would be ideal. I would note that while we are saying gaither only gave up one sack last season, he was OWNED by a then healthy Dwight Freeney in the playoffs.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

True, but the point is they had faith that the 2nd or 3rd pick (can't remember when he was taken) would help their team. If anything they got worse.

Drafting Roger Saffold in the second round or drafting Russell Okung in the first in my eyes would have the same impact come next year. Let's get Clausen or Berry and get a star player for years to come that will get credit for playing well and make them play better.
Dont' get me wrong I have nothing but respect for the offensive line, but it's a sad reality that they get no credit from the media and fans until the offseason.

Drafting BOTH of them would be the best for our team.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Buster

Drafting BOTH of them would be the best for our team.

This is another smart option. With one problem, we have to trust Jason Campbell who again doesn't get respect until the offseason.
I'm not trying to cause any arguement, but just saying when I think back to games from this past season and further back, I remember a quarterback who didn't fit anything the offense tried to do and made horrible decisions and when there was a good open receiver he would throw it short, because of bad instincts.
Let's hope Mike can work his magic on him, because I wouldn't be surprised also if this option plays out.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

True, but the point is they had faith that the 2nd or 3rd pick (can't remember when he was taken) would help their team. If anything they got worse.

Drafting Roger Saffold in the second round or drafting Russell Okung in the first in my eyes would have the same impact come next year. Let's get Clausen or Berry and get a star player for years to come that will get credit for playing well and make them play better.
Dont' get me wrong I have nothing but respect for the offensive line, but it's a sad reality that they get no credit from the media and fans until the offseason.

Joe Thomas played very well and is a very good tackle. The problem, as I said, is that the Browns as an organization were terribly mismanaged, and as our team has shown, good players can't always save a mismanaged organization.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Joe Thomas played very well and is a very good tackle. The problem, as I said, is that the Browns as an organization were terribly mismanaged, and as our team has shown, good players can't always save a mismanaged organization.

It's weird to see a Redskins fan compare the Browns to the Redskins.. But I guess that's the truth eh? Anyways the point is mismanaged or not he's an amazing tackle who cannot win for his team. Not to mention both starters for that team last year were released/traded showing that he really had absolutely no impact on his quarterback?
I understand those two quarterbacks were downright horrible, but it still has to have a bit of an impact considering these were two highly regarded draft choices coming from college.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Yeah, look at a guy like Joe Thomas. One of the elite LT's in the league yet their team isn't far behind us in draft picks. I know if I was a GM/HC I would take tackles only past round 2 and let the coaches do their job.

well, there's a reason that you're not a GM

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

well, there's a reason that you're not a GM

I'm glad a lot of people around here are not GMs! (including me)

[Dirtbag59]

Has anyone else that Shanahan has been much more willing to take on power blocking types since he came to Washington? When he first came here I conformed to the 300 or under stereotype but it seems like this time around he's more comfortable going into the season with a bigger offensive line. Who knows, maybe all those rumblings about Denver O-Lineman being light to handle the mile high elevation weren't so far fetched.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Has anyone else that Shanahan has been much more willing to take on power blocking types since he came to Washington? When he first came here I conformed to the 300 or under stereotype but it seems like this time around he's more comfortable going into the season with a bigger offensive line. Who knows, maybe all those rumblings about Denver O-Lineman being light to handle the mile high elevation weren't so far fetched.

Nope, def haven't seen our final line so I'm not saying he's willing on anything

hell maybe he'll run it for a bit.. people do usually go to their roots though

it's going to depend on what happens personnel wise until we get a picture

we can say that he'll develop it around our players and that's fine.. at the same time he may be developing the scheme around our players and seeing how they perform.. then he knows after actual GAME play what he needs to do

I think that he'll find out a lot in the pre-season activities, but he could mold it later on as well

he's not getting fired after one year no matter what

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by Dirtbag359

Has anyone else that Shanahan has been much more willing to take on power blocking types since he came to Washington? When he first came here I conformed to the 300 or under stereotype but it seems like this time around he's more comfortable going into the season with a bigger offensive line. Who knows, maybe all those rumblings about Denver O-Lineman being light to handle the mile high elevation weren't so far fetched.

He'll go where the market inefficiencies take him. Or, put simply, best player available.

[IrMitchell]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

well, there's a reason that you're not a GM

Fair enough I guess. haha

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by IrMitchell

Fair enough I guess. haha

neither am I