new drilling in the U.S

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Well then what did this sentence mean.
"In September, the Democratic-controlled House and Senate decided not to renew a separate, congressional moratorium on offshore drilling that had been in place for more than two decades. "

Sounds like congress let the ban run out so it was allready open for drilling.

That statement is correct. Once the current moratorium expires, it won't be renewed but replaced with actual policy reversing the ban. I guess to put it more concretely, it's currently not U.S. policy to drill offshore. Lots of talk, lots of orders, bans and reversals, but no legislation has actually been enacted to permit drilling specifying what regions will be tapped.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

That statement is correct. Once the current moratorium expires, it won't be renewed but replaced with actual policy reversing the ban. I guess to put it more concretely, it's currently not U.S. policy to drill offshore. Lots of talk, lots of orders, bans and reversals, but no legislation has actually been enacted to permit drilling specifying what regions will be tapped.

Why do you have to vote to reverse a ban if the ban is no longer law. So now they are going to vote to reverse a ban that is not a ban. My only point was that this ban is no longer a inforce so what was Obama actually giving the OK for. Read this its no longer ban and there is nothing to vote on.

Congress Allows Offshore Oil Drilling Ban to Expire | NBC San Diego

[12thMan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Why do you have to vote to reverse a ban if the ban is no longer law. So now they are going to vote to reverse a ban that is not a ban. My only point was that this ban is no longer a inforce so what was Obama actually giving the OK for. Read this its no longer ban and there is nothing to vote on.

Congress Allows Offshore Oil Drilling Ban to Expire | NBC San Diego

Sorry I'm not being clear. They're not voting to reverse anything, per se. Let me spin it another way (you're wearing me out, by the way). The ban (President's sig) simply states what you can't do (no drilling allowed), but it takes an act of Congress (law) to say what we can do (drilling allowed).

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by 12thMan

Sorry I'm not being clear. They're not voting to reverse anything, per se. Let me spin it another way (you're wearing me out, by the way). The ban (President's sig) simply states what you can't do (no drilling allowed), but it takes an act of Congress (law) to say what we can do (drilling allowed).

No they don't. So what your saying is that they now have to pass laws to tell us what we can do? Your wearing me out. If their is no ban to stop them from selling the rights to allow drilling then there is no reason to pass a law saying they can. It a given that they can because there is no ban on doing so.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by firstdown

No they don't. So what your saying is that they now have to pass laws to tell us what we can do? Your wearing me out. If their is no ban to stop them from selling the rights to allow drilling then there is no reason to pass a law saying they can. It a given that they can because there is no ban on doing so.

FD, most people really just want to ignore this part:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

FD, most people really just want to ignore this part:

I think after you get 3 miles off the coast it becomes federal waters and not the states. I know that three mile line changes what we can fish for if we are over three miles out because of this. I think the only thing that is really left to decide is how the state and the federal goverment will share in the revenue and how and to whom will they lease the rights. I'm still not sure why this is such big new other then the fact that Obama and the congress could but the ban back in force.

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I think after you get 3 miles off the coast it becomes federal waters and not the states. I know that three mile line changes what we can fish for if we are over three miles out because of this. I think the only thing that is really left to decide is how the state and the federal goverment will share in the revenue and how and to whom will they lease the rights. I'm still not sure why this is such big new other then the fact that Obama and the congress could but the ban back in force.

my point was that it is allowed unless specifically banned.

[Trample the Elderly]

About time . . . . maybe we can get a new nuclear plant too. The governor needs to break up VEPCO. It's the worst damned monopoly ever.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

About time . . . . maybe we can get a new nuclear plant too. The governor needs to break up VEPCO. It's the worst damned monopoly ever.

Waht's that VEPCO?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Waht's that VEPCO?

Dominion VA Power. They're all over the South now with different names. It's the same company and it's a monopoly in VA. Strange that no Rep or Dem governor has ever broken it up? I mean competion is a good thing in a capitialist society . . . up . . I forgot.