Domestic Terrorists? You Decide!

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

Three points:
1) Did you read my post # 52? If so, did you not get that I'm not trying to cover the ocean with this debate. My point in response to Chico was very specific and intended that way.

2) What part of "I was just referring to anyone who commits or intends to commit violence on the basis of religion is an idiot" and my reply being "We agree 100% on this point." did you not understand?

3) I've been around the block and understand history, Christianity, world/current events, and have read multiple books dealing with the contrast between the Bible and the Quran relating to modern day terrorism. I have not read the Quran cover-to-cover, nor have I read the Bible cover-to-cover, not many people have.

I certainly don't need to open the Quran to find a passage to tell me "it was a sin to hang people from trees and set them on fire just because they are black and own more land than you do." There's plenty in the Bible to tell you that. You obviously have some serious issues with Christianity and I'm not going to address your issues, it would take days and wouldn't change your viewpoint.

Historically, no one religion has a monopoly of those who use it's teachings to induce or committ violence. My initial response to Chico was about his statement: Islamic fanatic = Christian fanatic. In the last ten years (recent history) it is fact that there have been far more murders committed worldwide by Muslim extremists than Christian extremists. Narrowing that down to U.S. citizens alone, there is a wide chasm in the numbers that have been killed by Islamic fanatics vs. Christian fanatics. The current Administration has stated that these "domestic terrorists" are a greater threat to the safety and security of U.S. citizens than Islamic extrmemists. Based on the recent death toll, this is not an accurate position. That's the extent of my argument. I have no interest in veering off onto other tangents with this.

Acts of violence because of religion are actually quite low. Most of these wars and acts of terrorism are about money. People use religion to recruit solidiers to help them fight. Americans are not gonna shed their blood for some oil company and arabs are not gonna shed their blood to further the profits of their king. Christian extremists may not seem that bad to you, but to me they are the most dangerous because they are not half way around the world and their guns can shoot me.

One more shot for giggles. If the Christian right are correct about reiligion the only people in heaven would be themselves. If it's immoral to tax the rich more then it is definitey immoral to not give back money you know was gained by acts of evil.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Acts of violence because of religion are actually quite low. Most of these wars and acts of terrorism are about money. People use religion to recruit solidiers to help them fight. Americans are not gonna shed their blood for some oil company and arabs are not gonna shed their blood to further the profits of their king. Christian extremists may not seem that bad to you, but to me they are the most dangerous because they are not half way around the world and their guns can shoot me.

One more shot for giggles. If the Christian right are correct about reiligion the only people in heaven would be themselves. If it's immoral to tax the rich more then it is definitey immoral to not give back money you know was gained by acts of evil.

So " radical Christians " are " here " , and not " half way around the world " , but you choose to make your home /life next door to gun toting scary christians .... you are a brave man . I would move half way around the world < to a peaceful Islamic state > if I lived next to crazy nutjobs who wanted to shoot me , but thats just me .

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by budw38

So " radical Christians " are " here " , and not " half way around the world " , but you choose to make your home /life next door to gun toting scary christians .... you are a brave man . I would move half way around the world < to a peaceful Islamic state > if I lived next to crazy nutjobs who wanted to shoot me , but thats just me .

Well to you sir my advice and to other fellow Americans is not be afraid of extremists. The way you defeat extemism has been proven time and again. Federal troops and the National Guard. It worked for Dr. Martin Luther King and it workled for Lincoln. Time to put the South to bed. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA death to the CONFEDERATE STATES of AMERICA!!!

[budw38]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Well to you sir my advice and to other fellow Americans is not be afraid of extremists. The way you defeat extemism has been proven time and again. Federal troops and the National Guard. It worked for Dr. Martin Luther King and it workled for Lincoln. Time to put the South to bed. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA death to the CONFEDERATE STATES of AMERICA!!!

I think you know my post was sarcastic , just responded to your comment about extreme / christian / and guns . I have very little fear of extremists , as most are insane to a degree , besides we have more than enough nukes to end most / all threats .

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Well to you sir my advice and to other fellow Americans is not be afraid of extremists. The way you defeat extemism has been proven time and again. Federal troops and the National Guard. It worked for Dr. Martin Luther King and it workled for Lincoln. Time to put the South to bed. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA death to the CONFEDERATE STATES of AMERICA!!!

So I take it you aren't waiting expectantly for the South to rise again?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

So I take it you aren't waiting expectantly for the South to rise again?

The next bet he loses they'll change his avatar to a jack ass.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by trample the elderly

the next bet he loses they'll change his avatar to a jack ass.

lol!!!

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

Well to you sir my advice and to other fellow Americans is not be afraid of extremists. The way you defeat extemism has been proven time and again. Federal troops and the National Guard. It worked for Dr. Martin Luther King and it workled for Lincoln. Time to put the South to bed. THIS IS THE UNITED STATES of AMERICA death to the CONFEDERATE STATES of AMERICA!!!

Dang dude you know its 2010 and not 1960 don't you?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Dang dude you know its 2010 and not 1960 don't you?

You meant 1860 right?

[budw38]

Originally Posted by Trample the Elderly

You meant 1860 right?

Some people never forget , and always stay angry . How are things going south of Yankee Nova ?

[Trample the Elderly]

Originally Posted by budw38

Some people never forget , and always stay angry . How are things going south of Yankee Nova ?

Depends, the fish are biting but my stable is getting empty.

[budw38]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Dang dude you know its 2010 and not 1960 don't you?

First , whats up ? Hey can you provide me with the link to donate to your chilli / charity event . I can't make it , but I will drink a few cold ones in spirit .

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by budw38

First , whats up ? Hey can you provide me with the link to donate to your chilli / charity event . I can't make it , but I will drink a few cold ones in spirit .

I think the person who made up this sponsor sheet was thinking more of businesses donating and becoming a sponsor and left off a place for individual donations. With that said you can use this form to send in any amount as we appriciate any donations. Sorry you cannot make it but if you golf at the end of the summer we have our golf tournament which is alot of fun.

http://suffolkchilifest.com/Sponsor%...20-%202010.pdf

[budw38]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I think the person who made up this sponsor sheet was thinking more of businesses donating and becoming a sponsor and left off a place for individual donations. With that said you can use this form to send in any amount as we appriciate any donations. Sorry you cannot make it but if you golf at the end of the summer we have our golf tournament which is alot of fun.

http://suffolkchilifest.com/Sponsor%...20-%202010.pdf

Thanks , I hope $ 250,000 is enough . I wrote on the bottom of the donation form that this donation was made possible by " Firstdown " of the Warpath < Redskins > , maybe you will get some brownie points ? Good luck with the event . No , I did not send 250 k , not a rich man .... yet ?