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Originally Posted by Beneil (diehard since 87)
Actually, the pro-bowls are the only thing that count to me. You go to a pro-bowl and about 85% of the reason is ALL YOU. If you got to the playoffs or get to /win the big one, that's a team effort thing.
A lot of people make the mistake of lumping win and lost columns into the QB's stats. Wake up guys. Tom Brady has never won a superbowl. The kicker that won each of those games has more rings than he does you know. Vinatieri made the 45 yarder to tie, and a 25 yarder to win brady's first ring. Final play in the win against the rams? Another 48 yarder from Adam. The man has 20 last minute field goal wins that too many people give Tom Brady the credit for. Stop giving QB's all the credit!
As for Donovan having done more with less, he has never HAD less!?! Seriously, Until you have a comparably bad o-line, a bad coach, a revolving door of crappy kickers, and an 80 year old veteran with less experience than you as a back-up, then you are in a better situation. McNabb is in an offense BUILT around his abilities, has always had a good to awesome o-line, and has usualy had as good or better receivers.
Also, please stop saying that jason hasn't had the big win or big this or that because Jason's play has not been the steady factor in our losses. Once again, against the Saints he completed 30 of 42 for 367 yards. The man avoided getting sacked the whole game and had a passer rating of 111.9 but his 3 touchdown passes meant NOTHING because Sellers fumbled the ball in overtime! Without Portis, our running game was, once again crap. He had to carry the team on his own, getting beaten up and thrown to the ground after every other throw. The big win was snatched away from his magical QB rating column thanks to Sellers. Yes, i can go to the interception that was fumbled and other things that happened, but i'm talking about our last posession in overtime.
I will get over it if McNabb takes the reigns, but i would rather give JC what it takes to win and watch the man go.
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I guess this had nothing to do with our "sorry ass" O line protecting him? Can't give JC all the credit if you don't give him all the fault.
Yes JC and the Skins had a VERY NICE GAME. BUT Saints had a VERY BAD GAME. or are we actually able to beat a SB team? If that is the case then a better QB would definatly make the diff.
Im not a Mcnabb fan at all. But, I'm not against him coming here.
We have given JC what he needs to win. But, he just cant win.
Can you imagine if Barry Sanders played on the sorry Lions? He would have never emerged as one of and IMO the best back ever. Oh wait he did play with the sorry Lions.
Im not comparing QB to Backs but in there respective positions talent stands out despite the team you have around you. Put JC on the Saints and they don't make the playoffs.